Featured Ye must be born again! 2

The main teaching Matthew 18:3, Matthew 19:14, Mark 10:14-15, Luke 18:16-17.
John presents how Jesus explained this to Nicodemus. ". . . Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?"

 

So a physical birth is equivalent to a resurrection from the dust?

How can a birth be a resurrection? This corruptible flesh has no access to the spirit. Our spirit is literally with God. There is not a baby spirit birthed at our adoption into God's family. As long as our name is written in the Lamb's book of life, we have a spirit, just not any applicable use for us on earth.

Does no one see a son of God is the image of God on earth, body, soul, and spirit? The body is the image of Jesus the Word, the physical. The soul is the mind or software, cannot be seen or tangible, the image of the Holy Spirit. Yet the spirit is the image of God. What would be considered carnal as the opposite of divine. That is why the spirit part of the image is not even with us, but in God's presence. We have no control over what our spirit does. But we can control what happens to our spirit. A reprobate mind or soul turns a spirit into a demon. Demons are not part of created creation. Demons are spirits that cannot be redeemed. So being born again does not redeem a demon. It does not even birth a spirit. Being born again is allowing the Holy Spirit to work in us, showing we are adopted into God's family. We are not spiritually dead. We are spiritually blind. We are disconnected from our spirit so we cannot see the spiritual side of creation. What is dead is actually the physical part. Paul claims it is temporal and corruption. The soul needs to be resurrected into a permanent incorruptible physical body. That is the first resurrection.

Some claim Adam passed nothing down to us. That is exactly right. We got exactly nothing from Adam, because Adam literally lost everything. All we really got was a dead image, and a dead corruptible body. Literally nothing. To be a son of God though we did have to be physically born first. The first birth is as necessary to our existence as the second birth. The soul, body, and spirit still started at conception. None of us pre-existed as any part somewhere else. So technically all were "birthed" at the same time. So the second birth as an adoption is just a place holder. And from God's perspective all humans are sealed until the day of redemption. That is the first death. The only way to be unsealed is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit the reprobate state of mind that God places one in, that can never be reversed. Known as the unpardonable sin. Also the point one's spirit becomes a demon. That is the point of literal death of all parts of the image: body, soul, and spirit. That has happened to millions of humans since Adam.

The only way to start the process from our perspective is to be born again. No resurrection involved. Just quickened by the Holy Spirit, to produce life and the fruit of the spirit while still in these dead corruptible bodies. Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. Our spirit is seated in heavenly places. Once the soul enters the permanent incorruptible physical body, which is instantly for those born again, then we as soul and body will be seated in Paradise. The soul can no longer taste death as part of God's family, the need to be sealed by the Holy Spirit is gone. The first resurrection declares one immune from the second death. But glorification, the joining of the spirit to the soul and body, is at the Second Coming. That is the 5th Seal being opened.

 

Exactly wrong. 1 Corinthians 15:22, ". . . For as in Adam all die, . . ." Romans 5:12, ". . . Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: . . ."

 

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Adam's flesh is the dead. Firstbegotten of the dead is not a resurrection. John is just stating Jesus was born a human.

The way you interpret Acts 13:33 is implying Jesus was not God, until after the resurrection. That is not what Paul was saying at all.

Paul was pointing out that the resurrection of Jesus was part of God's plan to restore all humanity as Sons of God. We can now be adopted into God's family. Jesus was already God from birth. Jesus never needed to be begotten at His death and resurrection. Jesus took on human form to accomplish God's will that the Lord Himself was the only means of Atonement. Jesus was begotten in Mary's womb, not the earth's womb.

 

Jesus' resurrection is certainly not his physical birth begotten of God.

Jesus was begotten physically at birth, not after He died on the Cross and was resurrected.

 

I understand similarities.

I understand the new birth is submission to the Holy Spirit. Circumcision was a physical act simular (a similarity) to being conformed to the Holy Spirit. Allowing the Holy Spirit to work is not the first resurrection. Allowing the Holy Spirit to work is the second birth.

Crucifying the old man is daily, even though the old man Adam was crucified with Christ on the Cross. We are not physically resurrected, as we are still daily crucifying the flesh.

 

Mark 10:14-15, ". . . the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. . . ."

 

""You had HE Quickened".

The lost soul is not said to "Quicken" itself.

Jesus was Virgin Born, Lived Perfectly, Gave His Life a Ransom FOR MANY, was Buried AND RAISED HIMSELF FROM THE DEAD, having Satisfied God's Justice.

The spiritually dead soul is said to be dead.

That spiritually dead soul is never said to "Quicken" itself.

God Does the Quickening to Eternal Life.

'You hath HE QUICKENED who were dead.'

Any 'belief", or "chose", or 'trust", or "having faith", IN Jesus BLOOD SACRIFICE, etc., takes place in the individual AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN BORN AGAIN, and their heart, that is deceitful and desperately wicked has been convicted by the Law of the Schoolmaster that they are without strength and ungodly, HAS BEEN CHANGED And REGENERATED FROM THE DEAD BY GOD.

Lost sinners are not Jesus and did not Accomplish His Eternal Plan of Salvation, to "Quicken" themselves to have Eternal Life, WITHOUT A PAYMENT OR AKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THEIR PERSONAL SIN DEBT.

Any denial of the Adamic Nature being imputed to all of Adam's posterity is Proof of Total Depravity being exercised, by the deceived soul, for God to See, in direct opposition of His Plain Teaching.

"When we were without strength Christ died for the ungodly".

You can not "be saved" without first being, lost, without strength, ungodly, deserving of the Eternal Punishment of God, in The Lake of Fire.

NOTHING IN THE BIBLE TEACHES TO PRAY FOR SALVATION, TO QUICKEN ONES SIN-CURSED SELF.

You must bring forth fruit meet for repentance, showing that there has been an acknowledgement of their personal sin state and that REPENTANCE has been Granted and Given, at the same time that they Receive Faith, belief, trust, the Ability to Choose, etc.

There is no "easy Quickening", "decisional Quickening", "Freewillers Quickening", from the dead.

Either, "you must be born again" and " you hath He Quickened from the dead", or the lost soul stands before Jesus saying, "I made myself have The Eternal Life that Only Jesus Bought and Paid for, by Quickening myself, and know not that I am wicked, miserable, blind, and naked, because I saw a verse in The Bible about 'believe", "trust", "choose", "have faith", etc., BUT HAVE NEVER 'BEEN LOST" AND TAKEN MY PLACE AS HELPLESS AS A WORM AND THE ENEMY OF GOD AND MYSELF, VILE, UNDONE, AND IN NEED, NEED, NEED, OF A SAVIOR FROM MY PERSONAL QUILT OF SINNING AGAINST ALMIGHTY GOD.

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