You can be a Christian and deny essential doctrine

The converse is also true -

You can uphold all essential doctrine & NOT be a Christian.

The Reformation & the current celebrations are proving that. Luther's rejection of James' letter shows that -

24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.​

Now the Lutherans & RCs are agreed on a form of words for justification by faith in Christ. BUT, who is justified? How are sinners saved? Infant baptism?

 

I was bushwhacked before, someone asked a question and I answered it. Rather than rule against the one initiating the discussion, I was punished for responding. Sad

 

Thank you!!!

 

Thanks, sounds good to me.

 

I think that his point, and which is very valid, is that there are some who teach the doctrines of the Church of Rome and the Sda and at times Charasmatic Chaos doctrines, and those are NOT of the scriptures, and that their churches actually promote another false Gospel!

 

I do not think that the Church of Rome/Sda/WoF teach at all the real Gospel message of the Cross, and while some are indeed saved in those groups due to the Grace of God and not due to their false theology, and those groups are I think the ones he is witnessing with!

 

We can only answer that question based on our understanding of God's Word as revealed to us by the Holy Spirit.
Personally, it is my belief that one CANNOT be saved denying "essential" elements of the doctrine of salvation. BUT, what "are" the essential elements of salvation??? Inasmuch as I believe salvation comes about ONLY by faith in Jesus Christ's Gift, I say THAT is the only requirement for salvation. However, since I am not God and I will not be sending anyone to hell or to heaven, I have learned to say that the salvation of any one who believes "anything else" is certainly questionable. We can only witness according to God's word and we need to KNOW WHAT WE BELIEVE and WHY. Most Christians, I believe, only know that because of what someone told them.
2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth".

 

Perhaps some have the idea that one believer should not judge another, yet that is not what is prohibited.

The Lord Jesus said to the rulers, 23“If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath so that the Law of Moses will not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made an entire man well on theSabbath? 24“Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”

There is a time and a place to speak out.

What is not allowed, nor should be is the condemnation.

Condemning is up to God, alone.

Reconciliation is our business.

That requires bringing appropriate understanding and judgement to discern how to respond.

The believer is not to waste time with swine and dogs when it comes to the Gospel. If folks display no interest or desire when given the gospel, move on to find others who will be interested.

Use judgement, discernment, and grieve for the lost who refuse the reconciliation. Just as Paul did for his own who rejected “the way.”

 

Best post of this thread.

 

Paul is clear:

English Standard Version (ESV)

Galatians 1:8English Standard Version (ESV)

8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.

Catholics believe in grace plus works saves (maybe) and purgatory is a non existent place.

That sounds like another gospel to me.

 

So now you're the Judge?

Luk 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Jesus told the rich young ruler he must sell everything he had and give it to the poor. This wasn't just about money. It was about making Christ the Lord of his life not money or power or POLITICS. I think you need to consider whether he's speaking to you. I find nothing about political allegiances being relevant to salvation in the Bible. Jesus accepted tax collectors, prostitutes, Roman Centurions (uho crucified lots of Christians). The greatest persecutor of Christians, Saul, became the greatest evangelist and supporter, Paul. What gives you the right to exclude "liberals." That is evidence of the effect the Republican Party has on you which overrides the effect of your faith.

 

Do you even know what Roman Catholicism and Liberal Christianity teach? Did you even research this before you replied?

I will help you.

What is liberal Christian theology?

 

IF you mean the PST view, then you would be sayiong that Calvin/Luther/ and basically all reformed and Calvinist Baptist got itall wrong, and Wright got it right!

 

The reformers would all agree with you!