I know there are many version of the Bible. I would say too many. I was taken back as someone asked a question and I answered according to the KJV which I read and prefer. I posted a scripture reference from the prophet Isaiah... I was floored and that's an understatement when the poster said where did you get that scripture from. There are definitely to many versions of the Bible? I have an idea I will post the scripture I posted and you post what your versions says... Brother Glen
Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
You Got To Be Kidding Me!
Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by tyndale1946, Mar 20, 2015.
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tyndale1946 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I think that is more from ignorance of Scripture than too many version. I don't use the KJV except for some of my children's schooling (because their curriculum is KJV based) and I recognize it quickly.
Oh - You wanted what the version that I use says - and I'm guessing where you are going with this but I use the ESV which says:
Isaiah 14:12-15
How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the at ions low!
You said in your heart, I will ascend to the heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of the assembly in the far reaches of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'
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Why does it matter if someone doesn't recognize the KJV???
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tyndale1946 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I recognized right away it was from the KJV. Only the KJV and the NKJV translate "morning star" as "Lucifer" in this verse. (Well, so does the Geneva Bible.)
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tyndale1946 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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That would be a good thing if people stopped looking to Isaiah 14 as a proof text for Satan.
Cause it's not! -
I mentioned that to a class one time and they looked at me like I grew another head. -
Isaiah 14:12 “How you have fallen from heaven,
O star [or shining one] of the morning, son of the dawn!
You have been cut down to the earth,
You who have weakened the nations!
13 “But you said in your heart,
‘I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne above the stars of God,
And I will sit on the mount of assembly
In the recesses of the north.
14 ‘I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.’
15 “Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol,
To the recesses of the pit. (NASB)
Here is another version:12 How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, who laid the nations low!
13 You said in your heart, “I will ascend into heaven! I will exalt my throne above the stars of God! I will sit on the mountain of assembly, in the far north!
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds! I will make myself like the Most High!”
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, to the depths of the pit. (WEB) -
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tyndale1946 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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The Clear Word was written by Adventist Jack Blanco. CW is not a translation, it is a highly interpretive commentary with a heavy SDA theological bias. You can get a feel for some of the specific instances of SDA theological insertions from various internet sites (I recommend this one https://carm.org/clear-word-bible ), or do the work yourself. It has been accepted in many SDA circles because it reinforces their beliefs, although it has also been criticized from within SDA.
So, is your wife Baptist? Are you Baptist? -
tyndale1946 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Please take time to Google the Clear Word to see its history.
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Reading different versions keeps it fresh and interesting for me. Many 'modern' versions are quicker to read than the KJV (for example) because they follow closer to my natural speech pattern and I don't have to look up words in a dictionary as often. Also, formatting is important; 'paragraphing' (verse breaks with numbers) found in some Bibles slows down the reading speed (but can be a good thing, too). -
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