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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by StephenUSAFVet, Apr 25, 2021.

  1. 37818

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    How would that affect how a writer was actually given by God to write it?
     
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    There is nothing wrong with arguing about a Bible translation. There are some newer versions which are unfaithful to the Original Autographs and must be exposed as such. I am not KJVO but can say from many years of textual studies that it is most probably the best Version ever in the English language. God has blessed this Version like no other and uses it mightily even today for teaching the Truth about Himself
     
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    You will like the upcoming Legacy nas then!
     
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    All would be saying the same thing, just worded differently!
     
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    How about the teaching that only really saved come thru preaching and teaching the Kjv alone?
     
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    Would say that it is very good, but not better then esv/Nas/Nkjv!
     
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    For the first two they fail in Luke 1.35, 1Tim. 3.16 and 1 John 5.7. The last fails in Luke 1
    35. So they can't be on par with the KJV
     
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    Your conclusions are based off a faulty Greek text source in certain areas though!
     
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    In none of the examples I have given are on any faulty text
     
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    I believe you know that, while I rant against many false doctrines, the one that comes up most-often here is the KJVO MYTH.

    And it IS a myth. Why? Because it's a widely-held but FALSE belief that says the KJV is the ONLY valid English Bible version there is. I believe the majority of people here are sola scriptura, & thus, as myself, don't believe any doctrine of faith/worship not found in Scripture, at least by strong implication.(Such as that of the Holy Trinity) The KJVO myth isn't found in Scripture, even in the KJV itself, by he least quark of the slightest implication. That fact alone makes it untrue.(Not to mention the falsehoods within that myth, such as "the KJV is perfect". If I point out goofs in the KJV, it's to disprove "the KJV is perfect".)

    And I, & others, have posted the man-made origin of the current edition of that myth in the ""translations" forum. There's been little dispute against that origin; none that have begun to disprove it.

    Now, I don't care if one wishes to use only the KJV (or any other one version) but I DO care if they criticize me or others for being Freedom Readers, not bound by man's rules to any one Bible version or translation. One of my fave preachers of the past preached only from the KJV, Dr. J. Vernon McGee, but he didn't beliegve the KJVO myth. He said he grew up with the KJV, was led to Jesus thru its words, & it was the version he was most familiar with. (In his audio Bible study covering the entile Bible, he didn't hesitate to point out the KJV's "Easter" goof in Acts 12:4, or "Thou shalt not KILL" in Ex. 20:13.)

    And I shall continue to criticize the KJVO myth & dispute with those who believe it.
     
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    1 John is
     
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    The 1611 translators themselves did not see their finished work as being either perfect or final word in translations!
     
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    If you're looking for "sound doctrine", then that takes verses, but since verses often differ greatly from one version to the next, even flatly contradicting each other, of course the version being used becomes an issue.

    I was once witnessing to 4 young Muslims in a metro who were surprisingly open, even to the trinity.
    I was showing them verses out of my Bible and it was going great.
    Then a Christian young man showed up who heard us and took an interest.
    He was saved but a non-trinitarian. He took issue with the trinity, opened his Bible to the same passage I had, and "proved" to the Muslims that the trinity is false, because his version did not have the verse. I was livid. That man had possibly jeopardized the salvation of those 4 souls.

    Is the Bible versions issue sad? Sure.
    Should we be more gracious with one another? Sure.
    Should we treat the Bible version (i.e. the words of God) issue lightly, when changes in the words can undo Bible doctrines? No way. There is no heavier issue than the words of God. This is no secondary thing, nor even a primary thing, this is the whole kit and caboodle. And if Christians don't know that, the devil does.
     
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    Then one would be more accurate to the actual word of God than the other.
     
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    How can saying the same thing different ways mean one less accurate?
     
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    Name some relatively well-know preacher or ministry that teaches this today.
     
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    Not only that - but the actual translation -
    Which version - which verses???
     
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    Representative of KJVO Church views!
    You are being redirected...
     
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    How was linking that site an answer?
    Let's try again: Name some relatively well-known preacher or ministry that teaches this today.
     
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    His version did not have 1John 5:7, in this case it was the French Louis Segond, but it's missing from a number of English versions too.
     
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