OK, I will. Oops! They say that the Samaritan was correct in helping the poor Jew. I guess your basis of 'don't intervene in events--just let God's will transpire' should be thrown out the window, huh? After all, that's just wisdom of men (ie, SFIC); there is no basis for this in scripture...
And since this has been the foundation of your whole argument, I'm thinking that you need to pick another premise and admit that in the example given of a man choosing between his unborn child nad his wife is a valid situation in which to exercise your God-given ability to make rational choices.
Sorry. You made the link by stating that the husband would be in the wrong to choose to save his wife's life. Shall I list the post #'s?
You are wrong to justify your position on the basis of 'not intervening in the flow of events.' I can show that scripturally. You cannot prove your position scripturally, so you are trying to weasel out of my point.
I'm afraid you are not being perfectly honest here.
Go back and study?
Yep - been doing that.
Thanks for being so condescending.
God ordered the murder of innocents.
Period.
Does He have reasons?
Yes - just as there is a reason to have to make the difficult choice to allow one to die to preserve the life of another when that life would not be able to survive anyway.
I honestly ask - you would allow your wife to die a death from an ectopic pregnancy?
You still want to justify the shedding of innocent blood, don't you?
Have at it.
I don't have to answer to God for those who are deceived into believing their choice to abort a fetus was justified because someone said Luke 10 or Joshua 6 says abortion is ok.
Abortion is never ok.
It is shedding of innocent blood.
It is an abomination according to God's Word.
But hey, you apparently know better than God.
If God ordered the death, believe me... they were not innocent.
He knows from the beginning what sins one will commit.
But in the case of today's abortion clinics and doctors who perform them there or elsewhere, it is not God ordering the death of the fetus... it is man's decision.
Shedding innocent blood.
Knowing what sins one WILL commit is not the same thing as being guilty of those future sins at PRESENT. Your view is mirroring that of the calvinists' augustinian original sin.
Answer Annsi's question...it's been posed to you quite a few times.
Your wife (or daughter) is 9 weeks pregnant and suddenly begins experiencing excrutiating pain in their abdomen.
You rush to the hospital and find that the baby, rather than implanting in the mother's womb, has implanted in the fallopian tube.
The doctors tell you that your wife (or daughter) will die unless the baby is removed from the tube.
The tube is about to burst and when it does, your wife (or daughter) will most surely bleed to death on the gurney unless they can get in there now and remove the child.
What say you?
Do you:
A) Say, "Well, I guess God decided that my wife should die today.
I will not kill this baby." thus condemning your wife to death - and the child that had a 0% chance of survival.
B) Say, "The baby will not survive - so save my wife." thus saving one life and sacrificing one.
Either way the baby is dead.
While it is not dead at this time, it is absolutely 100% guaranteed that the baby will die and without surgery, your wife will die too.
Atleast option B has only one innocent's blood on your hands.
Option A has 2.
Is that the way a husband cares for his wife - as much as Christ loved the church?
Did Christ just sit aside and allow His bride to die?
Matthew 13:58
And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.
Oh ye of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?
I can see why Jesus is unable to do many wonderful works this day and age.
Too many fail to believe that with just a little bit of faith, He can move mountains in their lives.
Without faith, it is impossible to please God.
Without faith, man turns to the counsel of the ungodly doctors who advise them to shed innocent blood.
SFIC, your pride is so much of a problem, it affects your interaction with others.
For you to accuse someone else of that is hypocritical, at the very least.
When SFIC gets really condescending, he uses 16th-century language.
That way, he can call your faith (and sometimes your salvation) into question, but sound sanctified in doing so.
SFIC, which one are you: Jehovah's Witness, Muslim, or Christian Scientist? Because your approach to all things medical seems to be an amalgamation of the three.....
You just don't get it, do you.
I am not a prideful man.
My pastor can tell you that.
My brothers and sisters, cousins, aunts and uncles can tell you that I am not a prideful man.
What you are misdiagnosing as pride is actually humility before God.
Believing His Word.
Hypocritical?
Is it not hypocritical to say one loves God and yet murdering that innocent baby in the womb?
What makes you decide that it's an ungodly doctor and how do you know the patient and doctor haven't turned to God before making a decision?
When I miscarried my 4th child, my doctor did an ultrasound and found that the baby had no heartbeat but the baby and sack were too perfect for the baby to be truly dead - so he and I prayed and we decided to wait (there was no health risk in waiting).
When I went back 3 days later, it was clear that the baby had died.
So while I've not had to make the decision to terminate a pregnancy that is threatening my life, it is not only ungodly doctors who have had to make the choice.
AND that they decide to do surgery before praying about it?
Not with a pregnancy issue, but I've seen personally with my own husband where God stoped the doctor from doing a surgery that turns out would have been detrimental to my husband's mobility if he had done the surgery.
My husband was under anethesia and ready for the operation but God stopped him.
And this was not a godly doctor (we knew him).
So God could still perform a miracle and stop the surgery.
It's happened to me but maybe you've never allowed God to work a miracle through the doctors in your life.
I don't know.