85-year-old says she was strip searched at JFK

[freeatlast]

This is what happens when the government goes bad. You can bet the military will be close behind to take control of the nation from the people.
http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/85-year-old-says-she-was-strip-searched-at-JFK-2342249.php

 

[Salty]

This is what happens when the government goes bad. You can bet the military will be close behind to take control of the nation from the people.

How do you figure the military will take control of the nation?

 

[freeatlast]

How do you figure the military will take control of the nation?

My guess is that when the people rise up like in many of these Islamic nations the military will be called in and take control of the nation with many people being killed by them. Once martial law is put in place it will never be lifted.

 

[billwald]

Congress is voting on permitting the Army to declare an American citizen inside the US to be a terrorist and cause him to disappear. That's how the military will take control.

 

[annsni]

Other than the fact that she says this happened, there is absolutely no evidence so far that it really did. No video (but video showing the opposite, apparently), no eyewitnesses, no reports - no nothing.

 

[targus]

My guess is that when the people rise up like in many of these Islamic nations the military will be called in and take control of the nation with many people being killed by them. Once martial law is put in place it will never be lifted.

Wait a minute.

You have advocated killing citizens by sniper fire for breaking curfew.

I suppose that you are only against the military standing down rioters as long as they aren't out past their bedtime. :laugh:

You are such a hoot. :laugh:

Go back up to the attic. :laugh:

 

[Scarlett O.]

I don't believe that the woman was strip searched. That would entail invasive sexual battery and she would have been complaining about much more than just a sore leg.

What did they do? I don't know.

 

[HankD]

More...

88 year old "invaded".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...icid=maing-grid7|maing9|dl14|sec1_lnk3|117754

HankD

 

[TCassidy]

Other than the fact that she says this happened, there is absolutely no evidence so far that it really did. No video (but video showing the opposite, apparently), no eyewitnesses, no reports - no nothing.

Yes, of course. TSA would put a camera in a room where passengers are asked to disrobe. Uh huh. Sure. They probably have cameras in the restrooms too. Yep. Sure.

 

[annsni]

Yes, of course. TSA would put a camera in a room where passengers are asked to disrobe. Uh huh. Sure. They probably have cameras in the restrooms too. Yep. Sure.

Do they have video of her even walking into a room?

 

[freeatlast]

More...

88 year old "invaded".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/ruth-sherman-tsa-strip-se_n_1129471.html?ref=travel&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl14%7Csec1_lnk3%7C117754

HankD

Have you noticed how many of the liberals have denied, questioned or cast doubt that this happened to the first woman? These are the people who are helping bring this nation and helping the striping away our rights and freedoms.

 

[annsni]

OK - I was watching the news last night and there are now three women who have come forward. Each one had a medical issue that prevented them from going in the scanner and as such, were subject to further searches. Each one had some sort of device attached to them - one was an ostomy bag, one was an insulin pump and I'm not sure they stated what the third was. In each case, how easy would it be to say it was one of these things when it was in fact a bomb? So each were asked to expose themselves enough to see the device and be sure it was safe and then to make sure there was nothing else that could be hidden.

Bottom line, when I fly, I'm thankful for this sort of "invasion". Interestingly enough, most everyone that they interviewed other than the three women felt the same way!

 

[Aaron]

No one has the right to fly, unless he is flying his own plane. You contract with an organization to ride on one of theirs, if they want you to drop your drawers, you do.

I choose not to fly unless I pay a private individual to pilot me.

 

[Don]

No one has the right to fly, unless he is flying his own plane. You contract with an organization to ride on one of theirs, if they want you to drop your drawers, you do.

I choose not to fly unless I pay a private individual to pilot me.

If TSA were paid and operated by the individual airlines, there would be no argument with you. Since TSA is a governmental body, and is something forced upon the individual airlines, I'm not "dropping my drawers" because the airline wants me to; I'm doing it because Homeland Security wants me to. This is where the issue of constitutional rights stems from.

 

[freeatlast]

OK - I was watching the news last night and there are now three women who have come forward. Each one had a medical issue that prevented them from going in the scanner and as such, were subject to further searches. Each one had some sort of device attached to them - one was an ostomy bag, one was an insulin pump and I'm not sure they stated what the third was. In each case, how easy would it be to say it was one of these things when it was in fact a bomb? So each were asked to expose themselves enough to see the device and be sure it was safe and then to make sure there was nothing else that could be hidden.

Bottom line, when I fly, I'm thankful for this sort of "invasion". Interestingly enough, most everyone that they interviewed other than the three women felt the same way!

But TSA denied it happened and you seemed to suggest it might be true in a previous post. Are you recanting?

 

[freeatlast]

If TSA were paid and operated by the individual airlines, there would be no argument with you. Since TSA is a governmental body, and is something forced upon the individual airlines, I'm not "dropping my drawers" because the airline wants me to; I'm doing it because Homeland Security wants me to. This is where the issue of constitutional rights stems from.

So are you saying this is constitutional?

 

[Don]

So are you saying this is constitutional?

I've always said the TSA personal searches were unconstitutional.

 

[freeatlast]

I've always said the TSA personal searches were unconstitutional.

I am glad you at least agree with that. You do remember in the beginning when the military was placed there to help enforce this un-constitutional act, correct?

 

[annsni]

But TSA denied it happened and you seemed to suggest it might be true in a previous post. Are you recanting?

To be honest, there is no evidence but if it DID happen, the way the women explained it, it was not offensive but necessary. I don't see the big deal - but I also see no evidence.

 

[Don]

I am glad you at least agree with that. You do remember in the beginning when the military was placed there to help enforce this un-constitutional act, correct?

If you're talking about immediately after 9/11, there were military in every major airport throughout the world.

From 1972 until 9/11, FAA dictated that screening be conducted by private firms contracted by the individual airlines. The Aviation and Security Act (Nov 2002) mandated that screening be done by federal employees, driving us to TSA.

It is my understanding that in the time period from 9/11 until Nov 2002 that military members were used to augment security at airports, but that the private contractors still conducted the personal screenings. If you have documentation indicating otherwise, I'm more than willing to review it.