Featured Dispensationalists: Why is This Version of Israel THE One of Prophecy?

I go away for a couple days and a dunnybrook breaks out!

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HankD

 

See...it was your fault:laugh::laugh:

 

Yes, my bad.

HankD

 

I should have looked you up yesterday...i was in seattle and tacoma....delivering in Portland tonight....

 

Isa 1:10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.
Isa 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
Can anyone offer a rational explanation as to why Jehovah would call Israel Sodom and Gomorrah? Why no just call Israel Israel, Sodom Sodom, and Gomorrah Gomorrah?

 

It's a 'pointer', to a type, like Rev 11:8:

And their dead bodies lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.

Babylon, Sodom, Egypt, all contain within them types of [unfaithful, apostate] earthly Jerusalem.

 

Obviously this is one of your talking points. I'll state something that I've said before: I don't believe that in a general forum one can make the point of saying who can and cannot discuss the point raised in a thread. If you want to limit conversation to a slender segment of any board's population you need to create your own private forum and talk amongst yourselves. Take the Fundamentalist Forum on BB, its clearly only for Fundamentalists. I'm not a Fundamentalist...so I don't post there. However for threads posted here I think its generally open season.

As for my views...well I am a dispensationalist. (I've said this here and plenty of other places on this board) I'm just a progressive dispensationalist.

So what you do you think about that?

 

Anytime.

Let me know.

HankD

 

Who do you think owns the 'nightly news'?

Besides some within the 'Muslim world', give some examples here. Who exactly is 'hating' them? Are you calling criticism of Israel 'hatred of Israel? Or any who refuse to favor or idolize them as 'haters'? Give your definition of 'hatred of Israel'.

The 'pink sky' passage is in reference to those apostate Jews of 'that generation' who failed to discern what was about to come upon them.

 

So, according to AresMan, Jehovah, when He brought down fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah as detailed in Genesis, He actually set Jerusalem and Israel on fire. The real Sodom and Gomorrah either didn't exist or was not affected.

 

No....according to the apostle Paul who quotes this for unbelieving Jews to see and understand in the book of Romans.....God can define the people in the city of Jerusalem, as Sodom, Egypt, Babylon,,, as he see's fit.
saying jerusalem has become as these wicked cities....the enemy of God is very effective to highlight the point.

When Jesus says remember Lot's wife.....it was not just a random example.

When someone goes to the absurd...to try and prevail in a discussion....they are failing to deal with the issue at hand.

Aresman offered the correct verses to answer your initial point.:thumbsup:

 

So, I'm being absurd and trying to prevail in a discussion against an a-mil/preterist, in a discussion which is addressed to dispies, to get dispy opinions. That is what you are saying.

There are in your world literary devices that apply to your liking when it helps you justify your position when clearly that is not the intended meaning but we dispies are absurd.

 

Well, I think when a thread is started with a specific question for a specific group, it is rude to reply if you cannot answer the question from the angle requested in the OP. There have been many threads started by calvinists with questions towards calvinists that I have stayed out of, and some I got into due to some fallacy about my position being bandied around.

I didn't know Progressive sold dispensationalism insurance

 

Excuse me but you are off base here. The response was appropriate given the absurd accusations against him.

 

Based on the liberal bent...the "god of this world". At any rate, irrelevant.

Some :laugh: Try ALL. Check out Sura when you get the chance.

Thank you for further helping my analogy geared towards discernment (something the preterist / amil's fail to grasp)

 

Based on this thread, yes...its a good start. I will also add Iran's non empty threat to try to wipe Israel off the face of the face of the earth. It was reported yesterday that there was activity around the suspected nuclear facility, too...this followed after a day or two after more threats from Ahm-a-nut-job.

We also have to look at this from Islam's side. Iran's leader believes he will usher in the the 12th and final Imam who (not) coincidentally matches the exact characteristics of the antichrist.

Of course they must have also bought into the christian zionism heresy :laugh:

 

Do you see jesus Second Coming as the AD 70 event than?