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Is the Sermon on the Mount for Today?

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  1. 1689Dave

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    Is the Sermon on the Mount for Today?


    This is an important question because Matthew calls the Sermon on the Mount the doctrine of Christ (Matthew 7:28). And John says any who do not have the doctrine of Christ do not have God (2 John 9).

    So how do we live the Sermon on the Mount today? In my experience, I gave up my career, skills and education to “seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness” Matthew 6:24-34. And experienced God’s providence over my lifetime just as he promised. Enjoying all that people spend their life looking for, generously given to me while not looking for them. So it puzzles me when Churches host “College and Career Days” helping their young in many cases, to immerse themselves in the ways of the world instead of in Christ.

    I also shunned Military service and registered as a Conscientious Objector. This closed many doors of opportunity and brought family ridicule. But living a life of nonviolence according to the Sermon also meant God would provide all the gentiles seek after as they kill and bludgeon their way up the ladder. I had a boss who marveled about my lack of concern for money.

    I know the Dispensationalists believe the Sermon is not for today. But this makes me think of the danger they are in if John is right about the doctrine of Christ.
     
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    Yes, the word of God, all of it, is quick and powerful, and timeless. It is for today just not your version of it. There is never a time for that.

    Where do you get stupid things like this?
     
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    Scofield said the Sermon is not for Christians. Scofield says on Mt 5:2-12; "For these reasons, the Sermon on the Mount in its primary application gives neither the privilege nor the duty of the Church. These are found only in the Epistles."
     
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    Great then what you should have said was that and not pin it all on dispies. Your broad brush makes you look ignorant.
     
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    Scofield created Dispensationalism and I've not met one yet that believes the Sermon is for them.
     
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    I have not met one that doesn't. Since I am a bit of a dispy (not in the scofield vein) You have now met one.
     
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    Maybe you shouldn't be so insular.

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    Do you think the Sermon is for today?
     
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    Do you practice and preach the Sermon?
     
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    Of course.

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    Of course I preach and practice all the bible. I just reject your version of it.
     
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    How do you get a version out of resist not evil? Or turn the other cheek? Or love your enemies, even if the government calls it treason?
     
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    Do you think both Jesus and Paul are "in danger of hell fire" because they called people fools? [Matthew 5:22]
     
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    At it's core the Sermon On The Mount is an exposition of the law given by the Author of the law, addressed to the recipients of the law, showing the spirituality of the law. Summed up here:

    48 Ye therefore shall be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Mt 5

    Oh no! I must be perfect?!?

    Whew, thank God:

    14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Heb 10
     
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    The Sermon is the backbone of NT ethics.
     
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    Only if you do.:)
     
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    Yes, It defines agape:

    12 All things therefore whatsoever ye would that men should do unto you, even so do ye also unto them: for this is the law and the prophets. Mt 7

    Agape is the 'backbone' of OT ethics.
     
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    Yes, the Sermon is the Two Great Commandments keeping the Ten based on love.
     
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