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But note that Christ said the words that you should turn to an unborn person from above. In the Scriptures, in general, all calls for repentance and conversion refer precisely to the unborn.

Remember the centurion Cornelius.

He led a pious life as a non-reborn Christian, as he had clearly chosen to serve the Most High God long before.

He even prayed and God heard him long before the Holy Spirit descended on him.
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30 Cornelius said, " On the fourth day I fasted until this hour, and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and, behold, a man stood before me in a light robe,
31 And he said, Cornelius! your prayer is heard, and your alms are remembered before God.
32 So go to Joppa and call for Simon, who is called Peter; he is staying in the house of Simon the tanner by the sea; he will come and tell you.
33 Immediately I sent to you, and you did well to come. Now we are all present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.
34 Peter opened his mouth and said, " Truly, I know that God has no regard for persons.",
35 But in every nation, he who fears him and does what is right is pleasing to Him.
36 He sent the word to the children of Israel, proclaiming peace through Jesus Christ, who is the Lord of all.
37 You know what happened throughout all Judea, beginning in Galilee, after the baptism preached by John:
38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and he went about doing good and healing all who were possessed by the devil, because God was with Him.
39 And we are witnesses of all that he did in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, and that at last he was killed by hanging on a tree.
40 This man God raised up on the third day, and gave him to appear.
41 Not to all the people, but to the witnesses who were chosen from God, to us, who ate and drank with him, after his resurrection from the dead.
42 And he commanded us to preach to the people, and to bear witness that He is the appointed Judge of the living and the dead from God.
43 All the prophets bear witness of him, that whosoever believeth in him shall receive the remission of sins in his name.
44 While Peter was still speaking, the Holy Spirit came upon all who were listening to the word.
(Acts II.10:30-44)

 

I did not say man has no will evidently you're not reading the post so this no sense to answer you if you're not going to read the posts why should I answer[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but I read all the messages and respond to them.
Although if you have already become irritated, then you can stop discussing this issue.

God's blessings to you, we will still remain in our opinion, since I clearly see that a person, although imperfect and very sick, still has his own will.
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I agree with you.The fact is that the highest authority in the Teaching is not any interpretation of the Bible in the form of creeds, symbols of faith or something else, but that the Bible itself.

 

However, any slave, when offered to choose freedom instead of slavery, is able to choose freedom of his own free will.

 

Well, do you admit that Cornelius led a pious life long before Peter and Christianity in general appeared in his life?
Yes, and we are all saved before we come to the Church, since the Sacrament of our Salvation took place before the appearance of the Church on the Day of the descent of the Holy Spirit.
But the fact of the matter is that all this does not negate the simple fact that people have at least some personal will to believe God on their own, at least somehow, even though we naturally need His help.
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24 Immediately the boy's father cried out with tears, " I believe, Lord." help my unbelief.
(Mar. 9: 24)

 

Well, you yourself admit that God gives us faith and helps us to cultivate it, but to accept it or reject it is our own business.

 

It is about Christ's command to believe in Him and in Him.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me; but if not, believe me in the very works.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do, he also will do, and more than these he will do; for I go to my Father.
(John.14:11,12)
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And this means that Christ was not sent to the Gentiles, but to the Jews. but according to the faith of the Gentile woman, who was outside of the Church, and outside of Israel, Christ still marked her faith.

24 But he answered and said: I am sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25 And she came and bowed down to him, and said, Lord! help me.
26 But he answered and said, " It is not good to take bread from the children and throw it to the dogs."
27 She said, " Yes, Lord." but the dogs also eat the crumbs that fall from the table of their masters.
28 Then Jesus answered and said to her, " O woman! great is your faith; let it be done to you according to your desire. And her daughter was healed in that hour.
(Matthew 15: 24-28)

 

In the sense of not accepting or rejecting faith?
Christ personally testified to a woman's faith even before the Church was established.
Here we see an example of how Christ, on the contrary, called her to think about Who and for what she believes, because for the Jews he was just a "pagan dog", but she, despite all obstacles, still decided to trust Christ and believed Him.
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To listen to you, on the contrary, you simply deprive a lot of people of faith. You do everything so that they become discouraged and eventually fall away from the living faith in Christ the Redeemer.

 

The point is that I believe that Christ died and rose again for the WHOLE world, and not just for a bunch of pre-elected people whom God supposedly made saved in the first place.
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15 But Christ died for all, so that those who live no longer live for themselves, but for him who died for them and rose again.
(2 Corinthians 5: 15)