But you are NOTright; you are clearly wrong.
The destruction of J & the temple by the Romans was part of the "days of vengeance" declared against that generation of Jews by Jesus.
The Jews received a much-greater punishment(for the rejection & murder of Jesus) beginning in 135-136 AD when Hadrian expelled them from their land. They were hated & persecuted wherever they went for some 1800 years afterwards, their punishment culminating in the nazi holocaust. [Edit]
Daniel was plainly told the 'beast' would enter the temple & SET UP the AOD, which includes his statue, which the false prophet will supernaturally make speak, & his declaring he's God. Plainly, that event has NOT yet happened.
Abomination of Desolation Was Indeed Already Fulfilled
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by gaviria.christian, Nov 9, 2019.
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Now Pilate, who was sent as procurator into Judea by Tiberius, sent by night those images of Caesar that are called ensigns into Jerusalem. This excited a very among great tumult among the Jews when it was day; for those that were near them were astonished at the sight of them, as indications that their laws were trodden under foot; for those laws do not permit any sort of image to be brought into the city.
The Wars of the Jews by Flavius Josephus, Book 2, 9:2
But now Pilate, the procurator of Judea, removed the army from Caesarea to Jerusalem, to take their winter quarters there, in order to abolish the Jewish laws. So he introduced effigies of Caesar, which were upon the ensigns, and brought them into the city; whereas our law forbids us the very making of images; on which account the former procurators were wont to make their entry into the city with such ensigns as had not those ornaments.
The Antiquities by the Jews by Flavius Josephus, Book 18, 3:1
The Romans upon the flight of the seditious into the city, and upon the burning of the set-apart house itself, and of all the buildings lying round about it, brought their ensigns to the Temple, and set them over against its eastern gate; and there did they offer sacrifices to them, and there did they make Titus imperator, with the greatest acclamations of joy.
The Wars of the Jews by Flavius Josephus, Book 6, 6:1
The camp religion of the Romans is all through a worship of the ensigns, setting the ensigns above all gods.
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The ensigns didn't depict Titus, but his father Vespasian, who wasn't there-if indeed there actually were any such ensigns.
Remember, Josephus was often unreliable & careful to keep Vespasian happy lest he lose his head. Remember, Josephus was a CAPTURED INSURRECTION LEADER & Vespasian's favor could instantly turn to displeasure at the slightest sign of disloyalty by a former rebel.
Remember, the AC is to set up HIS OWN IMAGE, or statue, which the false prophet will supernaturally make speak.
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I don't think you are evil. The motive is you want to help people right? That is very honorable and appreciated. I just think you should start with the focus of what can a person like me do to come closer to God. Or share your own experience of what you have learned where you started and why. -
No, the AOD and J being surrounded by armies are separate events. The AOD is in Matt.24; the armies are in Luke 21. -
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So when you see standing at the set-apart place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel, let the reader understand, then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.
Matthew 24:15-20
When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
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Cause if you have nothing passed down where is the motive to even start? -
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gaveria.christian aka Christiang aka Teknonoftheos.aka Cgavaria
Self proclaim prophet, more like a failed cult leader.
Anti-america, anti-capitalism, thinks if your in debt of any kind you are a sinner, but happens to be a CEO who accepts credit cards. He is a rich kid. Wannabe Jewish. In so much he hired folks to "discover" if he has a Jewish lineage. It wouldn't fit well with everything else but Jews are evil.
Thank God he didn't take a interest in Islam cause sure enough he'd end up blowing himself up.
There is no holy spirit or spirit......its -> AIRFLOW
Gives end of he world prophecies. Few years ago I begged that maybe he ask God to push the dates back so I don't miss the star wars movies.
should bookmark the end of world prediction dates throw in his face when he's wrong.
A Jewish Calvinist. :rolleyes: Like the epitome of UNSTABLE/UNLEARED. -
Like as way of life, they raised you to love God but they have to be failures some where right? What better way of living or technique have you discovered, what is something useful you have discovered?
When and why is there a actual shift in starting a new religion? -
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