They don't if you are a government official or even a private citizen on government property. The ACLU is clearly anti-first amendment on the free exercise clause. </font>[/QUOTE]Agreed but would add, that they are anti Christian, and leave no stone unturned in their attempt to legislate Christianity out of this world, using whatever guise is at hand.
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Well we can all start by not using any ACLU lawyers for our legal matters.By that I mean any lawyer who is a card carrying ACLU member.They do not protect the freedom of Christians.
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The ACLU does support the right of private citizens to practice their religion in their workplace.
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Just add "except Christians"between country and by. Then they have it right.Click to expand... -
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It is beyond my comprehension how any Bible believing Christian (wait that is redundant) could offer support of any kind (financial, editorial, debated, etc.) to the ACLU. By their works, the initials should stand for Anti-Christian Litigators Union.
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Originally posted by Daisy:
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Originally posted by KenH:
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For instance? Which cases do you believe prove this?Click to expand... -
I don't support the tyranny of the minority, MP. No one is harmed by listening to a two minute prayer. No one is harmed by walking by a copy of the Ten Commandments.
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Originally posted by SeekingTruth:
It is beyond my comprehension how any Bible believing Christian (wait that is redundant) could offer support of any kind (financial, editorial, debated, etc.) to the ACLU.Click to expand... -
Originally posted by KenH:
I don't support the tyranny of the minority, MP. No one is harmed by listening to a two minute prayer. No one is harmed by walking by a copy of the Ten Commandments.
What about my rights, MP? What about my rights?Click to expand...
No one is saying you can't have your own personal statue of the 10 Cs on your front lawn. No one objects to your carrying a copy in your wallet. Who is telling you that you yourself cannot say a two minute prayer to God? -
Originally posted by Daisy:
How are your rights violated by not having a statue of the Ten Commandents in the courthouse? How are your rights infringed by not hearing a two minuter prayer?Click to expand...
If a person doesn't want to hear a prayer, he can cover his ears. If a person doesn't want to see a copy of the Ten Commandments, he can not look at it. -
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By not allowing my free exercise clause in the first amendment to be fulfilled because one person out of 6,000 at an event(if even that many) are allegedly "harmed".Click to expand... -
Originally posted by KenH:
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How are your rights violated by not having a statue of the Ten Commandents in the courthouse? How are your rights infringed by not hearing a two minuter prayer?Click to expand...
If a person doesn't want to hear a prayer, he can cover his ears. If a person doesn't want to see a copy of the Ten Commandments, he can not look at it. </font>[/QUOTE]If you don't want to see a Wiccan run naked at graduation, you can just close your eyes. -
How does a student led prayer before a student body at a football game between students violate the "establishment" clause of the 1st Amendment?
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carpro, if they do it as a small group with only those who wish to participate, it is fine. If they use the PA system and impose the prayer on the entire audience, it is not fine. This is using public moneys and venue to impose religion on all in attendance. Now if it is a private Christian school, that is also fine over the PA system.
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