http://www.dennyburk.com/andy-stanley-the-megachurch-and-homosexuality/
saw this on facebook....does not look good. WARNING...listening to this is sickening
listen at the 22-27 minute mark......can you believe this?????
This is an abomonation.Singing Christmas carols together???? 33-35 minute mark....he is clueless....indefensible
Andy Stanley
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Iconoclast, May 1, 2012.
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Iconoclast Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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I just heard about this through Al Mohler's blog. I would hope Stanley will at least give some sort of response to the concerns people are raising. He should clearly state where he stands.
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I agree - I'd like to know more information because sometimes there is a focus to the story and while there is a lot more info there, it is not given because of the point that they want to make. I'm sure there will be a response to this soon.
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Iconoclast, I would be interested in knowing what his father thinks of this. regardless that is so sad, :tear: I think this shows just how serious the trouble is that the church is in today. If this was some small church that only touched a few lives it would be bad enough, but our failure and compromising hearts have brought us to this. We need to pray as Daniel prayed asking God to forgive us for what we have done.
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I saw this and then read about it on Mohler's blog. I am hoping that it was just an illustration gone terribly wrong but with no correction or clarification, it does seem bad.
All too often the mega churches are given a pass on theology because they "reach so many people". It's too bad because that is just an ends justifies the means. But, if this accurately portrays his beliefs, both the ends and the means are wrong. -
Hey, this is great news! If you can't give or won't give up your sin, it's ok, "God loves you". If your sin has ripped lives apart, it's ok! God loves you!
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I'm wondering if either Mohler or iconoclast have reached out to Stanley in private first before publicly posting this, as is the biblical model.
It's also a sin to do what has been done by both Mohler and iconoclast. The irony from the blog is all the "if" and "it seems"... -
Another son of an SBC-President-megachurch-pastor brought up this issue last year:
Huffington Post 6/25/11 'Evangelicals and the New Wave of Gay Acceptance' by Jonathan Merritt
One of those he interviewed actually said the church has:
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Any time we deviate from what we believe is the instruction of God, we commit adultery. God used the illustration of Gomer and his wife to illustrate the adultery of Israel.
And if we find fault with someone who nullifies this passage or that, but think it ok for us to nullify some other passage to fit our doctrine, what does that say about us.
The same nullification tools used to make God's condemnation of homosexual behavior to no effect have been used to ordain ladies, and push other doctrines that confict with the plain reading of the text. -
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Here is a good article discussing the issue of Matthew 18 and public debate:
http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2012/03/four-reasons-why-public-critiq.php -
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I am not a member of that local church,or I would have disrupted it publically right on the spot, rather than sings christmas carols with fornicating sodomites and adulterers.
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Webdog felt good trying to invoke Mt 18......when the elders of the church should have used Mt 18 to seek to correct this adulterous sodomite..before his sin infected any more of the local body. Then they welcome in the unrepentant adulterer....with tea and cookies....just wonderful:love2: -
I also think the scope of Matthew is much broader than the article linked. Any false doctrine hould personally offend us, hence I believe it is warranted to go to the source first instead of spreading potential slander and gossip. -
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"potential"false teaching??? everyone should have stood up and walked out. -
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This is when good people..are guilty of loving..."too much"....listen to it,then you will see what I mean:thumbsup: -
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