No, Arabs are NOT heirs under the law. The lineage goes through Isaac NOT Ishmael. And God is very specific about it Abraham. They are blessed .Maybe that is why you are so confused.
Jesus IS in the Koran since it is loosely based on some scriptures. But Jesus is second to Allah's prophet. The Messiah was promised to Gods people (the Jews NOT Arabs) and is why the Jewish people who have NOW come to a knowledge of Christ are called Messianic Jews because the Messiah for whom they have looked for IS ALREADY HERE.
Muslims place Muhammed above Jesus. In the Koran Jesus comes back to deal judgment to the world but He does this for Muhammed that his kingdom will remain forever.
Are God & Allah the same?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by 2 Timothy2:1-4, May 5, 2007.
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Not to me. They are totally different, and only one is real.
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Ishamael has no inheritance!?!
True, the greater inheritance came through Isaac, who was the child of grace, but to say that Ishmael had no inheritance is to simply stick your fingers in your ears and go "nyah nyah nyah nyah!" -
Re: "messianic muslims" - Jews and Christians have in common the same God, the same Old Testament as the Bible, but the Messiah is not a Muslim, therefore a Muslim cannot be messianic. -
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Are you a Messianic Christian? You need to study up more on this issue. I'm not trying to be condesending, so please don't take it that way.
Messianic has a specific meaning toward and for a specific people. Muslims can be Christians but not Messianic. -
Muslims have the same God at their origins that Christians and Jews have; the God of Abraham.
If a Hindu or a Buddhist is saved, he can no longer be Hindu or Buddhist. (Well, I guess he could be an unbeliever, but not actively.)
But, if you remove the obfuscation that the religion of Islam has placed in the way...
It is much like the obfuscations that the religion of Catholocism, Baptists, Lutherans, etc. have put in the way of God. -
This is not a C/A debate.
This is about the deity of Christ and who Christ is. If Christ is not God, then he isn't Christ at all. Muslims deny the deity of Christ. So do the J.W's, the Mormons, and all other world religions. This is not a difficult concept to grasp.
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Genesis 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
That describes the Arabs today, and their friends (the converts to the religion of Islam). Islam is a violent religion (wild). Its hand is against every other hand (religion). And he shall dwell in the presence of his brethren (the Israelites). This was the so-called blessing that Ishamel received.
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"You cannot be a Muslim and Christian" Dr. Ergun Caner (Former Sunni Muslim)
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I can appreciate the criticism concerning the Muslim understanding of 'God' (i.e. Allah).
Be aware that our own term 'God' derives from the German 'Gott' (i.e. guthan) which if we trace it's origins was a pagan usage. I'd be careful with the kind of criticisms flying around here concerning the pagan 'roots' of al-lah (the-God). Every culture which picks up the worship of the Jewish God repurposing a local term for the Jewish divine person. To criticize Arabs for doing the exact same thing Romans, Greeks, German tribes did is a bit hypocritical.
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Nothing in scriptures makes us believe the islamic 'god' is anyhting near the true God of the bible. -
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The allah of the quran has completely different atributes than the Jehovah YHWH of the Bible. They are not one and the same.
Besides that, the ArabBible refuses to use the term allah and here is the reason why:
http://www.arabbible.com/information.php?info_id=7
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Some say that Allah and Jehovah are the same.
Below is a chart of the attributes of each & here are the first two on the list:
Allah: Unknowable: is so transcendent, so exalted, that no man can ever personally know Allah.
Jehovah: Knowable: Jesus Christ came into the world so we could know God personally (John 17:3)
Allah: Nonpersonal: Allah is not to be understood as a person. This would lower him to the level of a man.
Jehovah: Personal: The God of the Bible is spoken of as a person with intellect, emotion, and will.
http://www.vbmark.com/theology/jehovah.php -
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It's always beyond my understanding why/how christians can defend a false god of a false religion.
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The Bible and The Koran are mutually exclusive, I believe.
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Islam is a religion that denies the Lord Jesus Christ----the only begotten of the Father from the House of Jacob the son of Isaac!!
He who denies the Son----denies the Father!!! Islam is a religion of God deniers!!!! A God denier is one who says, "Yes I know there is a God-----but I have no use for Him! I have no desire for Him!!" A God denier does not say---"There is no God!!" A God denier says, "There is a God but He's not for me!" And thats what Islam and the Muslim religion says when they deny the Lord Jesus Christ!!
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