Trees and flowers can be used in the worship of God. The Temple was full of such things craved into the walls and doors. Nothing wrong with them at all, IMHO. Christmas trees are seasonal decoration. No one worships them that I know of. They are packed down or thrown out for the trash man to pick up.
Sun and Morning Star are also names of Christ.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Anyhoo, my two cents.
At odds about Christmas
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Onlybygrace, Nov 4, 2010.
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Joh 10:22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.
Purim was set aside as a time of joy and feasting and giving gifts.
Est 9:19 This is why Jews who live in small towns observe the fourteenth day of the month of Adar as a joyous holiday, a time for feasting and giving gifts of food to one another.
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It is also inaccurate to label Baptists as non-liturgical. The majority, of course, are, but that has not always and in every instance correct. There are many Baptists that are liturgical in worship and in observance. I have been at times in my life.
Additionally, the way most corporate worship services are with prescribed form, many could be considered liturgical in a way.
I'm not making this stuff up, dude. Just reporting. -
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This is only presented to shed a different light on Christmas. Could it be?
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Oh, how evil Paul must have been for "converting" the Athenian altar "to the unknown god" to worship of the true God.
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Lets play around. I will not use total verses for space sake not for context sake. I hope.
Lev. 23:4 These [are] the feasts of the LORD, [even] holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. Part of Col.2:16,17 Let no man therefore judge you, in respect of an holy day, Which are a shadow of things to come.
Honest question for I know no Greek. Is this saying that at the time of the writing of Col.that they still are or is it saying, Which were.
1 Kings 12:32 pt. And Jeroboam ordained a feast in the eighth month, on the fifteenth day of the month, like unto the feast that [is] in Judah
Hosea 2:11 I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.
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I didn't say you expanded the definition but the use of liturgical "work" to a calander. Which by the way the CATHOLICS do. And by association it evil and corrupt. Look at the other Heathen faith of Orthodoxy and Copts they also have a liturgical Calander. Look at the extremely liberal Lutheran and Anglican churches they also have a works Calander. Its EVIL.
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Thus insidiously Christmas is even more evil because it not only encourages pagan worship. And note how both buddha and Santa are fat men that give gifts. Also wears the red of the Bishop of Smyrna which supports Catholic hiarchy and leadership and also has a long beard hidding his face alluding to the Orthodox priesthood. but it encourages reading text like the approcrypha which can lead you astray in your faith and add scripture to the bible. So this holiday is inscidiously evil. JUST EVIL AHHHHH! RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!! -
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The liturgical calendar, I will say again, is about participation with Christ in the important works of salvation history. It places Christ in His rightful place as the center of Christian worship.
To be honest, your theology reeks of paranoia and theological arrogance. The very fact that there are faithful evangelicals who come to a different conclusion cannot possibly sit well with you, since there is only one way and you know exactly what that one way is.
You completely misunderstand this issue. You need to do some graduate level reading in church history and theology. I can recommend some great texts if you wish.
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