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See Below. I had to save it in Word as plain text, then copy it here.
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Bad movements within the church. They list Promise Keepers and I'm not sure about them - I've heard good and bad, but the others are definitely a problem.
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce..._in_church.htm
Kingdom Now/Dominion Theology (50 years old)
* Latter Rain
* Manifest Sons of God
* Identity
* Restoration
* Reconstruction
* Positive Confession
3. The Toronto Blessing/Pensacola Outpouring/Brownsville (AOG)
* Also known as Holy Laughter,
* Toronto Craze
* Toronto Vineyard
* TACF - Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship
* Brownsville Assembly of God - A/G
Key Leaders, Apostles, & Prophets
"As with so many Doctrinal Issues, these teachers, apostles and prophets appear toaffirm the Historic, Biblical, Orthodox position while at the same time compromise or even deny it."
Word of Faith
* E. W. Kenyon (Father of the Word/Faith Movement)
* Kenneth (Dad) Hagin (Rheme Bible Institute Founder)
* Kenneth & Gloria Copeland (Voice of Victory Magazine & Ministries)
* Paul & Jan Crouch (Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) Presidents)
* Kim Clement (Paul & Jan Crouch's Personal Prophet)
* Stephen Strang (Charisma Magazine President)
* Jill Austin
* "Brother John" Avanzini
* Markus Bishop
* Reinhard Bonnke
* Rodney Howard Browne
* Juanity Bynum
* Charles Capps
* Morris Cerullo
* Mark Chironna
* Paul Yonggi Cho
* Creflo & Taffy Dollar
* Jesse Duplantis
* Colin Dye
* Christian Harfouche
* Marilyn Hickey
* Benny Hinn
* David Hogan
* T. D. Jakes
* T. B. JoshuaLarry Lea
* Roberts Liardon ("God's Generals")
* Joyce Meyer
* Myles Munroe
* T. L. Osborn
* Rod Parsley
* Derek Prince
* Frederick K. C. Price
* Oral & Evelyn Roberts (Oral Roberts University (ORU) Founder)
* Richard & Lindsey Roberts (Hour of Healing Television Profram)
* Jerry Savelle
* Ed Silvoso
* R. W. Shambach
* Tommy Tenney ("The God Chasers")
* Dwight Thompson
* Robert Tilton
* Casey Treat
* Apostle Charles Tucker
Kingdom Now/Dominion Theology
* Franklin HallWilliam Branham
* Oral Roberts
* Earl Paulk
* Gary North
* Nicky Gumber (The Alpha Project)
* Royal Cronquist
* James McKeever
* PatRobertson
* Larry Lea
* David Chilton
Latter Rain/Manifest Sons of God
* William Branham
* Mike Bickle (I.H.O.P.)
* Paul Cain
* Bill Hamon
* Rick Joyner
* Cindy Jacobs (Prophetess to the Nations)
* George Otis (Transformations Video)
* Gwen Shaw (Endtime Handmaidens)
* C. Peter Wagner (Global Harvest Ministries)
* John Wimber (Vineyard Founder)
* George Warnock
Toronto Blessing (Toronto Airport Vineyard)
* John Arnott (Pastor)
* Randy Clark
* Guy Chevreau
* Wes & Stacy Campbell
* Rodney Howard Browne (The Holy Ghost Bartender)
* Marc Dupont
* William DeArtega
* Larry Randolf
* Mahesh & Bonnie Chavda
Pensacola Outpouring/Brownsville A/G
* James Kilpatrick (Pastor)
* Steven Hill (Evangelist)
* Michael Brown (Theologian) No longer at Brownsville AOG
* David Hogan
Kansas City Prophets (Metro Vineyard)
* Mike Bickle
* Paul Cain
* Jack Deere
* Fancis Frangipane (River of Life)
* Ted Haggard
* John Paul Jackson
* Bob Jones
* Rick Joyner
* Dutch Sheets
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I'm posting this because the Christian community seems largely unaware of the Latter Rain, Dominion, and Kansas City Prophet movements, which also overlap with the New Apostolic Reformation.
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Marcia said:
Bad movements within the church. They list Promise Keepers and I'm not sure about them - I've heard good and bad, but the others are definitely a problem.
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce..._in_church.htm
I'm posting this because the Christian community seems largely unaware of the Latter Rain, Dominion, and Kansas City Prophet movements, which also overlap with the New Apostolic Reformation.
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Look how long that list is!
This is what you get when you ban heretick-burning.
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Marcia said:
Bad movements within the church. They list Promise Keepers and I'm not sure about them - I've heard good and bad, but the others are definitely a problem.
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce..._in_church.htm
I'm posting this because the Christian community seems largely unaware of the Latter Rain, Dominion, and Kansas City Prophet movements, which also overlap with the New Apostolic Reformation.
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Hmm - I've never heard of the Latter Rain, Dominion or Kansas City Prophet movements.
I'll have to do some research on them.
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you could have saved some time by typing the following under "word of faith:"
See TBN.
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Unfortunately, I know of these movements because my sister in law and her "pastor" husband are into this stuff.
They started their own church about a year ago.
She believes Kim Clement is a prophet.
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Could save a lot of space if people stopped reposting people's entire posts again and again and again,,,,,,,did I say, again?
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Jim
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I know how you feel.
Some of my kinfolk make me want to...well...move over and let me at that wall!
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Please do! I've been following them for awhile due to different things coming up connected them that I saw getting in my church and in others' churches. I have 3 friends who finally had to leave their churches because of teachings coming from these areas.
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Oh, dear, this is too bad. I hear about stuff like this from people I know, too (they have relatives getting influenced by these people/movements).
The thing about the Latter Rain/Kansas City Prophets/NAR is that their ideas and teachings can get into churches without the church being aware of it. It's not like an announcement is made or anything. And because people do not know about these movements and teachings, it gets in the door. This is what happened in 3 churches I know of where my friends and their husbands were.
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At that Toronto Airport Church they een have people on floor barking like dogs as part of their worship. It was reported in our national newspaper.
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And that's not all of them, just the most well-known leaders or teachers.
Cindy Jacobs is a "prophet." The NAR has schools for prophets and apostles. They believe in new revelation over the Bible. Some of their leaders have called the Bible a "dusty book." Some have said the NT test for prophecy is not the same as the OT test - it does not have to be 100% correct. I am not making this up.
Here is something on one of the NAR leaders, Dutch Sheets:
http://signofjonah.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/the-impotent-god-of-dutch-sheets/
They have really strange teachings about prayer. They believe that God can't do anything unless you pray - prayer releases God to do stuff. It's somewhat similar to Word Faith yet different. They have a low view of God and high view of themselves.
Here is an article on one part of the NAR teachings:
http://www.deceptionbytes.com/DOMINIONIST_DNA_KABALLAH
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Marcia said:
And that's not all of them, just the most well-known leaders or teachers.
Cindy Jacobs is a "prophet." The NAR has schools for prophets and apostles. They believe in new revelation over the Bible. Some of their leaders have called the Bible a "dusty book." Some have said the NT test for prophecy is not the same as the OT test - it does not have to be 100% correct. I am not making this up.
Here is something on one of the NAR leaders, Dutch Sheets:
http://signofjonah.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/the-impotent-god-of-dutch-sheets/
They have really strange teachings about prayer. They believe that God can't do anything unless you pray - prayer releases God to do stuff. It's somewhat similar to Word Faith yet different. They have a low view of God and high view of themselves.
Here is an article on one part of the NAR teachings:
http://www.deceptionbytes.com/DOMINIONIST_DNA_KABALLAH Click to expand...
Actually, on a more serious note, heretick burning is not permitted under the regulative principle.
But false-prophet-stoning IS!
So, to revise my earlier statement:
This is what we get when we don't obey the Bible and STONE false prophets.
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J.D. said:
Actually, on a more serious note, heretick burning is not permitted under the regulative principle. But false-prophet-stoning IS! So, to revise my earlier statement: This is what we get when we don't obey the Bible and STONE false prophets.
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I see your point, but I take it you are joshing since we don't follow those OT laws about stoning. :wavey:
Btw, heretic is spelled heretic. No "k."
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Joshing?
Keep in mind I am Covenental, meaning I stress continuity between OT and NT.
btw since I am the Most Right Reverend Pastor and Bishop of the Most Exalted Assembly, you may not correct my spelling in public.
Hopefully you have detected my sarcastic humor by now.
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J.D. said:
Joshing? Keep in mind I am Covenental, meaning I stress continuity between OT and NT.
btw since I am the Most Right Reverend Pastor and Bishop of the Most Exalted Assembly, you may not correct my spelling in public.
Hopefully you have detected my sarcastic humor by now.
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I think so. Sometimes it's hard to tell here. :smilewinkgrin:
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wow, really, how do we know if this is happening in our own churches. I mean, we don't attend every class, and right now we don't have a pastor, our interim is a theology prefessor though. Not to mention, I am not entirely sure soem of this, or something similar was starting in our old church, we knew something was wrong, something was happening, weren't exactly sure what.
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Doesn't Amil teachings fall within Kingdom Now teaching to some degree?
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That's protestantism for you...thank God I found the Orthodox Church, I'll leave the loonies to you guys...
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There's a name for this. It's called "barking in the Spirit."
Along the same lines as "laughing in the Spirit."