You need to read Way of the Master since that is the book with all the footnotes and depth on the topic.
Church never got back with me regarding evangelism
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by evangelist6589, Oct 5, 2016.
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1.) The point of the gospel is to make it to "Heaven." (This seems to be assumed, not spelled out.) There has been no discussion of the kingdom of God - the major theme of Jesus - and the bigger picture of what God is doing with humankind.
2.) "Go through the books of Acts and see if you can find any of the disciples telling sinners that God loved them and had a wonderful plan for their lives. Instead, they confronted their hearers as guilty criminals - enemies of God who desperately needed righteousness." (WOTM, page 31) While it is true in some circumstances (usually for the Jewish audiences), it is not at all true for the Gentile audiences.
3.) The woman caught in adultery who ended up before the feet of Jesus (John 8:3-11) was apparently brought there by the "terror of the Law" instead of the scribes and Pharisees as the scripture states. As Comfort claims, "I doubt she would have fallen at the feet of Jesus without the terror of the Law having driven her there. Thank God that it awakened her and caused her to flee to the Savior." (WOTM, page 51) That's simply twisting the story a bit to make it fit into the point he is trying to make, since Jesus inconveniently did not use the WOTM presentation in that passage. -
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Plenty of Baptist churches are dying or failing in their mission too. -
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Continue to read, continue to read and post back.... -
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He's given an open mind, you're obligated to give him honest interaction -
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Continue to post your page numbers and quotes. Ultimately I think you misunderstand the point Comfort is trying to make but continue to post. I am not saying that Comfort is perfect in his theology for he is not. But his principle of evangelism is very good and the best that I am aware of. -
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"Straightening up, Jesus said to her, 'Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?' She said, "No one, Lord.' And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."
There's not a bit of "Law" in His words to her. -
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Turn to page 109 and you will see that he wrote an entire chapter on making grace amazing.
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Oops my mistake Jesus did not use the law with her but It was the terror of the law that drove her to the feet of Jesus, and it was Jesus that freed her. She was caught in adultery (commandment 7) and violated it. The scribes and Pharisees knew the commandments and brought her out to stone her because she violated one of them. -
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That is patently untrue.
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Thats because you have not yet finished the books and do not understand the points he is trying to make. He speaks much of grace if you would read the entire books. Continue to read and post.... I am headed to diner. -
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Before I head to dinner I will say this.
The main POINT in the books is to teach evangelists to use the 10 commandments to show sinners their sin. It is the Holy Spirit that convicts of sin. Comfort also believes in showing humble people grace as he argues in both books The Way of the Master and Hells Best Kept secret.
MOST evangelism methods these days ignore the 10 commandments and so suffer as a result. MANY falsely believe that this is Comforts method and Comfort originated this principle but he did not.
Ernest Resigner who is now dead believed in using the 10 commandments to show sinners their sin.
"If you do away with the ten commandments there is no such thing as sin("...sin) is the transgression of the law"---1 John 3:4). If there is not sin, the cross is not necessary" (Todays evangelism, 17).
If you have not already I suggest you purchase this book "Todays Evangelism" by Ernest Resigner and give it a read. Its better written than Comforts books and I believe shows more how the five points work together in evangelism over any other book that I have read.
Look you can get a copy for $1.00 used.
For some reason my amazon.com link vanished. But go out and buy the book Todays Evangelism by Ernest Reisinger.
PS- I tell you what if you cannot afford $1.00 I will buy the book for you and mail it to you if you PM me your address. -
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I just can't take this thread :)
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