You throw out shovelfuls of gravel and expect your opponents to go track down every pebble, or just accept it at face value.
Whenever bits of your evidence are looked at, they often turn out to be nothing. Example: CT's asked, "What's this? How could the FBI possibly identify the WTC hijackers within two days??" In fact they all bought tickets using their own names and it is documented here.
But that didn't even make a dent in their thinking. It would seem the CTs ignore evidence as much as anyone else, and just go with their own gut feeling that, of course the Feds (or their NWO puppeteers) are scamming us.
Conspiracy Fact: Every Major Terror Plot In U.S. Was Contrived
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Mar 7, 2010.
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Notice how far they stay away from "the evidence"? They accuse us of not having any evidence yet how would they know this? They refuse to look at it and if they do it's only to scoff.
In other words, they have no argument aside from insults and cliches. I reckon they must really believe in keeping it simple.
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3. Any evidence will do.
Any evidence that lends credence to their theories will be uncritically accepted as truth. Any evidence that opposes their theories is dismissed out of hand. The quality of evidence is not important as long as it supports the conspiracy theory.
IOW presenting evidence to the contrary is a waste of time.
The rest of us non-PCTs just have to come to terms with the fact that we are not as smart as they, are sheep with a herd mentality. -
Also, I think we're talking past each other. When I asked who "these people" are, I already knew that we were talking about the powerful. But specifically, which powerful ones? Every powerful person, everywhere? I mean, Ron Paul has some power as a congressman but he's typically exempt from these kind of "outings" of the evil. Why? Why not throw him and every candidate you'd consider voting for into the fray as well?
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I would not establish any man as being above criticism or called to accountability, my self included (though I'm not a man). As for list of people and those with whom we should concern ourselves with most are those local and state officials which are responsible to us and most dependent on our vote and our voice.... and who may become leaders at some higher elevation if their performance is good. What we need to stop doing to encourage the best choices are made is to fair critique our leaders... stop justifying their deeds and actions because of by party or by political philosophy we are most agreed, and start denouncing the puny, frivolous, and false inuendos of others who use name calling and labels as though these have meaning as fact. -
windcatcher said:I would not make a 'hit list'.Click to expand...
"Don't trust them... but too late! you already do trust them... and they know that you trust them... and there's nothing that can be done, but some of us still try..."
Again, not trying to pick on you (and hope I don't come across that way) but it all reads like a "Down With Them!" sign. What it lacks in clarity it compensates with zeal. -
On second thoughts, windcatcher, I'm not sure this dialogue is going anywhere. Could be my fault, could be yours, maybe both. Who knows? In any event, I wish you well and have enjoyed our exchange. :flower:
ETA: the last word is yours. I'm not bowing out without giving you a chance to respond. I'll read your next post. -
NiteShift said: ↑You throw out shovelfuls of gravel and expect your opponents to go track down every pebble, or just accept it at face value.
Whenever bits of your evidence are looked at, they often turn out to be nothing. Example: CT's asked, "What's this? How could the FBI possibly identify the WTC hijackers within two days??" In fact they all bought tickets using their own names and it is documented here.
But that didn't even make a dent in their thinking. It would seem the CTs ignore evidence as much as anyone else, and just go with their own gut feeling that, of course the Feds (or their NWO puppeteers) are scamming us.Click to expand...
It's simple really but it takes more effort than hitting a button on a remote.
"you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"
By now you should have a pretty good idea that the world's leaders are indeed working towards a "new world order" I mean they admit it in front of the cameras and in print just about every day now.
What more "proof" do you need than public confessions by the very culprits that are involved in such an un-democratic global process???
If all the public confessions aren't enough to convince you then you probably don't want to be convinced. I can come up with no other conclusion.
It's not a "gut feeling" about the Federal Reserve. It's history! Read some books on the subject. Here's a good one.
The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve
The best education in the world on how governments go bad and tyrants oppress people can found coming from the mouths and pens of our founding fathers. Take their wisdom and warnings seriously!!! They didn't go to all the trouble to birth a free nation just so people could have big screen tv's and SUV's bought with easy credit and fiat currency. -
poncho said: ↑Look NS, this has been going on since 9-11-2001. It's not my job to do all your research. Okay. If you want to be infomed turn on your mind if you want to be entertained and conditioned turn on the tube.Click to expand...
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carpro said: ↑PCTs assume that their beliefs are correct and that those who don't see things the way they do have been duped or that they need to open their minds.Click to expand...
Google Search "calls for a new world order"
Searches related to calls for a new world order
pope benedict xvi new world order
barack obama new world order
gordon brown new world order
financial crisis new world order
kissinger new world order
facebook new world order
sarkozy new world order
new world order 2009
If there is no conspiracy for a new world order then it must be some huge coincidence that all these leaders want the same thing at the same time and for all the same reasons.
But then coincidence theorists always "assume that their beliefs are correct and that those who don't see things the way they do have been duped or that they need to open their minds." Either that or they're crazy nutzos. (author of bolded quote unknown thanks to Carpro with holding information)
I don't think you've been duped by anyone my very good friend. I think you keep duping yourself. :smilewinkgrin:
BTW, isn't it against the board's rules to keep posting quotes without providing links to the source??
I mean I know you don't have to follow the rules like everyone else here Carpro but it would be a common decency to post a link. After all everyone else abides by the rules here.
You do have some common decency don't you? Or is that too much of a liberal trait for you to handle?
Two JDL leaders charged in bomb plot
December 13, 2001 Posted: 5:58 AM EST (1058 GMT)
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Federal authorities Wednesday charged two leaders of the Jewish Defense League with conspiring to blow up Arab and Muslim institutions in southern California, including the offices of Arab-American congressman Rep. Darrell Issa.
Irv Rubin and Earl Krugel were taken into federal custody following late Tuesday raids by members of an antiterrorism task force, said Thom Mrozek, a spokesman for U.S. Attorney John S. Gordon.
"When you target innocents based on religious or political affiliation or belief, we consider that terrorist activity," Gordon said.
"Their primary motivation was to send a 'wake-up call' or terrorize Muslims or Arabs and alert the local, if not national, community to the JDL's commitment to attack those targets."
CNN.com
BUT WAIT! The story wouldn't be complete without an "informant" supplying the bomb making materials.
Rubin, the group's chairman and a resident of Monrovia, and Krugel were arrested after the informant delivered the final component needed to make pipe bombs -- five pounds of explosive powder -- to Krugel's house in Reseda, Iden said.Click to expand...
It's the same in just about every "big news" terror bust case. The (paid) informant recruits the "members", comes up with the plan and supplies the money and bomb making materials. Then presumably gets a big reward for discovering a "secret terrorist plot" against the USA.
And the rest is all big headlines and little to no follow up in the conglomerated mass dream media Inc.
Cui Bono? -
Hint.
Government gets more money power and control and giant global corporations get more and bigger big juicy contracts.
Where's the insentive to win this "global war on terror" if governments and big business stand to reap so many rewards for keeping it going? -
Uuummm... poncho, ahem:
Facebook calls for a new world order?!? Ha! Hahahaha! Hahahahaha!
I keep trying to think of a pithy one liner incorporating the phrase, "unusually angry dictates of pimpled emos" but nothing comes to mind as emos ARE usually angry. There's a disproportionately greater chance of facebook resulting in "Synchronized Fart Groups, Eastern Standard Time" than of its producing meaningfully monolithic behavior.
I've never seen a social network mentioned as a global influence (authority?) in a comparable manner as the Pope and Kissinger. To that I can only add, the real web push for universal fascism is here.
The real mystery, poncho, is how it is that both of us are Ron Paul supporters. :confused: You've given me pause in my third party leanings.
ETA: Good ole G.O.P. looking better and better all the time. -
poncho said: ↑It's not my job to do all your research.Click to expand...
Like the time that CT's were touting "International Lawyer Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd", who was calling for another investigation, and who proclaimed 9/11 a "False Flag Operation and a pretext to engage in Genocidal bombing".
Only problem: Webre is delusional, and believes that our government possesses anti-gravity and time travel technologies passed to them by extraterrestrials. CT's must have felt pretty confident that no one would even bother to check him out at all. Like Carpro says, the quality of the evidence doesn't matter.
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