We are condemned already, John 3:18 and in addition to Ezekiel, we are responsible for our own sins.
We believe infants are sinners but are not accountable until a later age
Conundrum Baptist Doctrine vs Satan
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by loDebar, Apr 15, 2018.
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I don't like to invent extrabiblical teaching like an "Age of Accountability." I think it does not take into account the varying age and maturity of children. Some truly know God from very young, and others of us come to faith later. I think we need to leave the question up to God's character and mercy. Certainly God knows the heart and intent of His children, and He will do right by them.
As for my own experience, although I grew up in a Baptist church, I never heard the true gospel of Jesus unto I was nearly 14. Previously, I heard all kinds of scare stories about burning in hell, promises that Jesus was about to come back at any moment (it was the 1970s) and I probably would not reach adulthood before it happen, that I needed to walk down the aisle and tell the pastor I needed to be baptized, but at the same time, walking down the aisle and being baptized only moved you across the room and made you wet. There was nothing helpful about those teachings, since the whole thing seemed so arbitrary and contradictory. The only constant was the pressure from the Sunday School teachers to "make a decision for Jesus," whatever that meant.
I heard the gospel for the first time at a little "coffee shop" revival center, when the preacher preached on Jesus calling Peter out of the boat. He explained that Jesus was calling Peter into a relationship of trust -- a relationship that would continue even if we slip up and start to sink beneath the waves. That made sense to me and I gave my life to Jesus a few minutes after.
I am convinced that if I had died the evening before, God would have had mercy on me as someone who had never heard. After that night, I knew that God will have mercy on me because I have responded in faith, as an often-faltering disciple. -
We believe the soul is conscience of sin, but the physical is in a time on innocence, as Adam and Eve in the Garden.
If a baby has a soul , it is sinful and here in condemnation. We are the bad guys -
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We are not sinners because we were born human . We are sinners on our own. According to Eze. 18,
Sin cannot be inherited. Then how is the unborn still a sinner unless he was before being conceived, ?
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If God has mercy on the unheard , what does that mean,?
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Acts 17:30
Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent...
By the way, the point of the gospel is not to "go to heaven," but to share in the kingdom of God eternally. -
Where did one get a sin nature if not from Adam? and why?
you use "kingdom of God" as a Jehovah's Witnress?
The problem with treating the "unheard" in that way is ... you make it better to not tell one of the gospel than to have them reject it? -
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Hearing the gospel is the best opportunity to understand the nature of the true God and know that He offers a way for us to be reconciled. -
Adam was physical death, we are /were already spiritually dead.
no, no no, the earth will be destroyed, you are staring doctrine from Mormons, JW's and even Islam.
If you believe it is better not to hear than reject the Gospel , we should recall all the missionaries, just to be safe -
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
"abortion" is not a fetus that is aborted it is a human child that is slaughtered. Slaughtered, demeaning the lives of unborn children by referring to them as fetuses evil.
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loDebar,
Off the thread, I want to ask why the name: "No Pasture?"
On the thread, is there a question in your OP? Or is there a statement of fact you want to defend? I have not been through the whole thread but is seems this would clarify what you are seeking,
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No Pasture is a hard way for a she herd to make a living,, a hard life
I was trying to stimulate discussion on this matter. I di have an opinion as to why it is but have not stated it.
Satan is trying to keep humans from being born -
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