so what’s the difference? Is conversion the first step to following Christ or is it the full enchilada?
Then what about being born from above. Is it connected to conversation (part of the package) or is it something else and is it a requirement of joking a Baptist Church?
Conversion Vs Born Again
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Jun 25, 2019.
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Which is the greater entity, state of being?
A. Born Again (ie from above)
B. Conversion
C. The redemption of the purchased possession
D. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven
Relative to The kingdom of God, inheriting eternal life, being saved, all terms used in the story of the rich young ruler Luke 18.
I am not sure all do not mean the same thing.
Would all the above apply equally to what Job said in Job 14:14? If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. -
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Conversion is a change in belief or the course of one's life. Regeneration is a change in one's nature.
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". . . O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave[Sheol], that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! . . ." -- Job 14:13.
In the verse 12 before, ". . . So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. . . ." -- Job 14:12 echos ". . . and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. . . ." -- Revelation 20:11. -
? Even having the first fruit of the Spirit Rom 8:23, when is our nature totally changed relative to, the kingdom of God? Why, even having the first fruit o the Spirit, do we grown within ourselves, We are awaiting birth, adoption, manifestation of son ship.
Is regeneration complete until the fulfillment of; Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken ( vi Fut Act 3 Sg) your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you, and or
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. From 1 Cor 15
When is the nature of man, totally changed, from being born of the flesh, to be, being born of the Spirit, relative to the kingdom of God? -
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Since your the long standing elder, you tell us. -
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@Earth Wind and Fire, one would expect you'd have at least the gumption to google it.
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