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Critics want to ban Franklin Graham from UK

thatbrian

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Here is what you said: "have no desire to debate the term. It's meanings already exist. There are at least two, as it seems you are unaware."

You refused to agree to a definition of terms and you also accused me personally of not being aware of your common definition. You should stick to the topic and not describe your opponents just as common courtesy. And you never answered that Fundamentalism was defined by books edited by Torrey 100 years ago, instead you said that Fundamentalism was not a theological term, although it is the name of a great many Christians. If there is no agreed upon definition of terms, then there is no debate humanly possible. You insist that only your definitions are the only correct ones, although your definitions are inaccurate in all respects.

You seem too angry and sensitive for this type of discussion, so I am ending it here.
 

church mouse guy

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You seem too angry and sensitive for this type of discussion, so I am ending it here.

There you go again--there is something wrong with your opponent. Let me assure you that I am not involved emotionally with issues and pay little attention to Franklin Graham simply because I do not hear much about him where I live in the Midwest. Here is my comment on Fundamentalism:

 

Jerome

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the original meaning was to define people who held to the following doctrines:

1. The inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture
2. The deity of Jesus Christ
3. The virgin birth of Christ
4. The substitutionary, atoning work of Christ on the cross
5. The physical resurrection and the personal bodily return of Christ to the earth.

That five-fold formulation originated in the liberal Christian Century!

Rather than relying on wikipedia and blogs, please consult reputable scholarship such as the following:

books.google.com/books?id=JChnDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA308

"The 'five points of fundamentalism,'...seem to appear first in the Christian Century XL (August 16, 1923), p. 1040. The classic five points, then, appear to have been formulated by liberals, while fundamentalists' own lists varied in number and content."

books.google.com/books?id=nTsq_ktTQkcC&pg=PA26

"The so-called 'five points of fundamentalism' did not provide a blueprint for fundamentalists as many scholars have assumed....Sandeen...correctly perceived that fundamentalists had no preference for five over above another number of articles (1970b: pp. xiv-xv)."
 

thatbrian

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That five-fold formulation originated in the liberal Christian Century!

Rather than relying on wikipedia and blogs, please consult reputable scholarship such as the following:

books.google.com/books?id=JChnDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA308

"The 'five points of fundamentalism,'...seem to appear first in the Christian Century XL (August 16, 1923), p. 1040. The classic five points, then, appear to have been formulated by liberals, while fundamentalists' own lists varied in number and content."

books.google.com/books?id=nTsq_ktTQkcC&pg=PA26

"The so-called 'five points of fundamentalism' did not provide a blueprint for fundamentalists as many scholars have assumed....Sandeen...correctly perceived that fundamentalists had no preference for five over above another number of articles (1970b: pp. xiv-xv)."

Wow! Just wow. I'm speechless at the stuff I see in this forum.
 

Reynolds

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Decisionalism is not evangelism.

Masses do get saved when the gospel is proclaimed, no doubt. Read the book of Acts.

Proclamation of the gospel is what we are called to do. The gospel is good news. We proclaim this news, and His elect believe it.
So, does Franklin Graham preach The Good News? Yes, he definitely does.
 
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