Did Jesus Have the Same nature as Adam. Or All of Us then?

Part of this I agree when taking the “we” as believers. For believers actually have both “natures” in which they may freely make dominant. Much of Paul’s imploring is concerning that “conversation” lived out.

What is not accounted is that unbelievers are in no such condition. The ungodly do not because they cannot. Their rebellious condition that is evident from even before birth is lived out in all manner of failed attempts to live “good” and “doing right.”

Christ did not have that will of the first Adam, that rebelliousness of human nature passed down from the fathers, but of that which was of Himself. Where we are “drawn away” by our own desires of the fleshly will, Christ would not be. What we experience as believers (fullness of Christ dwelling in us richly) only in part will be that fulfilled in the the new body where “we shall be like Him.”

 

Here is a perplexing question that the Scripture answers are not easy to reconcile in our human orientated thinking.

From God’s perspective, “humbled” carries the view of not retaining the rights and privelages of station and position, but allowing for submissive protection under the care of the Father to occur.

Also, “being found in the fashion (form) of humans” indicates that the form was a copy and not the actual original.

So, how does that fit our thinking of the static union of God and man - nicely, IF one does not get carried into philosophy and presentations that would tend to compromise the union in some manner.

 

Remember

Time and time lines are a tool God uses for human history benefit.

God is not conditioned to time, a time line, or runs out of time.

 

Only in the manner that rebellion became the character of every person.

For example, “rebellion is in the heart of the child...”

Had Christ been born of the first Adam, Mary would have not only swaddled but no doubt swatted.

The sin of rebellion is the master heading in which all other sin are outlined beneath.

No child of human parentage is not rebellious from conception.

That is the result of the fall of Adam.

His failure is exactly the same as found in all of human parentage.

 

As the Scriptures state, “He became sin for us...”

He actively took the sin, it was not pushed upon Him, the same with all aspects of the crucifixion.

 

For sometime I considered it as such. But is not pride also a matter of rebellion?

Which came first?

The pride of one establishing the self more authoritative then God, or the rebellion in which one can allow them self to be lifted up in pride?

 

“24He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed. 25For you were straying like sheep, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.”