Hi to all , and years ago I heard about this , do we have to confess our sins when we sin ?
In Col 2:13 , " And you , being dead in your sins and the Uncircumcision of your flesh , HATH He quickened together with Him , having FORGIVEN YOU A L L TRESPASSES ."
In Titus 2:14 , " Who gave Himselfr for us , that He might redeem us FROM
A L L INIQUITY ".
In Eph 4:30 , we are told , " NOT TO GRIEVE the Holy Spirit of God ."
So , do we have to confess when we sin ?? What say you ??
That means forgiveness , past , present and future , right ??
Do we have to confess our sins ?
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by dan p, Jul 9, 2010.
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Yes, our sins are forgiven and if any are forgiven all are forgiven as they were all yet future when Christ died for our sins and therefore if he died for any He died for all as they were all yet future.
We don't need to ask God to forgive us our sins because God has already done that but we do need to confess our sin (I Jn. 2:1-2) and thank God for the forgiveness we have in Christ already.
We need to confess our sins not to enter heaven or to be justified but rather to EXPERIENCE the blessings of salvation here and now. Our position "in Christ" is secure our "hope" to enter heaven is a confident expectation but the redemption of our daily life ("redeeming THE TIME" - Eph. 5:17) depends on how we deal with sin in our experience. Sin can rob us of present blessings and eternal rewards althoug it cannot rob us of heaven. -
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We confess our sins because we're commanded to. God has forgiven us our sins but in confession, we bring our hearts in line with Him. When we do not confess, we deny that there is sin in our lives and will not become more like Christ.
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So then, if you commit a sin that has not been forgiven and have not had time to or rememberance of the sin to ask forgiveness, the sin is not forgiven ever and you go to hell. Is that correct?
As for your comments on OSAS, I feel sorry for you. To live a life wondering if you did something that could erase your name from the Book of Life - to un-graven your name from God's hand - to ignore the guarantee of our salvation (the Holy Spirit), would be a life not worth living. -
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7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 ¶ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
He is faithful to forgives us our sins because they have been paid in full by Christ. However, it is our "fellowship" that is at stake if we don't confess our sins and a defiled conscience.
This is not abut RELATIONSHIP but FELLOWSHIP. I have five children and they are my children by RELATIONSHIPand always will be. However, they are not always in FELLOWSHIP with me. When they are not in FELLOWSHIP with me they do not cease to be my children by RELATIONSHIP but they cease to ENJOY the blessings of fellowship. -
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I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. And your not wise to compare yourself to others. 2 Corinthians 10:12 When they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are not wise. -
Surely you have seen wills where a parent says something like, "I give my entire estate to my children, namely Abe, Bob, Charles and Don. I deliberately leave nothing to my fifth child Eddie because he has been disrespectful [or for whatever reason]." Note that Eddie is just as much a child as the other four but he has been deprived of the legacy. It's the same thing when one of God's saved children falls from grace. -
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Jn. 6:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.....44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
All may be children of God in the sense they are products His creation (Acts 17:26-29) but they are not children of God in the sense of having been born of the Spirit of God as this is something that Jesus told an old man that he was still in need of (Jn. 3:3-6). Indeed, we come into this world as "children of wrath" and "children of disobedience" but not as Spirit born "children of God" (Eph. 2:1-3).
Those who are "children of the flesh" will be disinherited but not those born of the Spirit - Jn. 5:24 - because their own works are not regarded by God as the grounds for justification before God (Rom. 4:1-25).
It is true that all "born again" children of God have the indwelling Spirit and are being progressively sanctified but progressive sanctification is never perfected in this life and does not count for qualifying for entrance into heaven.
The essential error of your position is that you think all humans come into this world as "children of God" in a spiritual sense.
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