God does not approve of abusing, drugging, & torturing his creatures unnecessarily.
Eating Animals as Food
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Joe, Feb 20, 2008.
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While I don't really approve of PETA or their agenda, I certainly agree that we have a responsibility to treat God's creation with respect. Abusing an animal just for kicks before you kill it for supper is just plain cruel. I'm not a vegetarian, but I am increasingly aware of the man-made chemicals and garbage we're putting into our bodies under the disguise of food. Lately, I've started to buy more organic foods, even meat, not because I want to be an environmentalist tree-hugger, but because all the chemicals are causing me and my family to have food allergies.
Recently, I found out that Kellogg's is using genetically modified corn to make their cereals. Sorry, but if God made the corn, who are we to try to "improve" it? Isn't it funny that we have so many kinds of cancer when years ago people never heard of it? It's just my opinion, but I think alot of it has to do with what we're putting into our bodies. -
I know I'm on a lonely ideological island here, but I don't think there is such a thing as animal abuse. If that option were possible, killing them for consumption would be wrong and it isn't, IMHO.
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I don't know about this.. I am more like ABCGrad on this one...
Have you ever seen a cat "play" with a mouse before it kills it... it makes me angry...
If someone mistreats an animal, and causes it pain before they kill it for food, then it is wrong, and Joe is right...
If killing it for consumption is labeled as abuse the way PETA wants to, it is going too far.
I have helped slaughter animals back home on the farm growing up, and it was always done fast and respectful...
Chemicals, genetically altering, and putting diseased meat into the food supply is another subject altogether...
Genetically altering has been going on for yrs, ever since that guy that came up with genetics played with his peas...
So that doesn't bother me too bad...
If one genetic line of corn produces more crops, and one genetic line produces better tasting corn.... mix the two.
Wait, that is not altering the genes though....that is mix breeding.
But, if we now have the technology to change a certain gene to produce more corn, what's the harm?
That is using the wisdom God gave man.
It is being a good steward of everything God gives us. -
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There is a part of me that is scared of this too.. I don't think we know enough to mess around with Genes yet...
But cloned sheep won't be a problem for me... I HATE lambchops!!! lol -
They only do this because of their greed. -
I sure hope you can prove that with a link. -
Something fishy here.
My HUSBAND worked for a conagra owned chicken processing plant for a week once, they kept sending him home due to lack of work in unloading where he worked. -
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I grew up on the farm where my uncles butchered hogs every fall. Cutting the throat was how they killed them, it isn't as quick and oainless as you think. -
PETA is not credible at all. And they do have an agenda.
They upset the balance of nature putting "cute cuddly seals" and stopping the hunt of them which has greatly diminished the supply of cod off the Atlantic coast.
They are hypocritical in their value and definition of an animal. They put as much value on an animal as they do on the life of a human.
They put more value on the life of a seal then an aborted baby, which it seems, they have no regard at all.
They don't differentiate between different types of animals. All animals are not equal in their sight, as they are in God's sight. Does a PETA lover swat at mosquitos? Do they fear rattlesnakes?
Do they kill micro-organisms (also a part of the animal kingdom), everytime they eat food, or drink water? The answer is yes. One-celled parasitic animals are common everywhere. One of the most common is the ameba from which one gets amebic dyssentery. But the entameba lives naturally in the small intestine. And it dies there too. They step on animals they cannot see. If they farm, they kill millions of animals every time they plow a field. Do they advocate that all the nation stop farming because of all the insects and animals from worms, slugs, beetles, etc. will all be killed? Are not these lives just as important as the lives as seals, deer and cows? Of course they are. All animals play a part in God's kingdom--in every aspect of nature. Upset any part of the ecosystem, even the smallest part of it, and you are asking for trouble.
And BTW, are you all going to throw away your leather shoes and belts, etc. if you give up eating beef? -
righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
No Such Thing as Pain FREE Death
The California slaughterhouse is just the tip of the ice berg [so to speak] in how barbaric our methods have become in an effort to process in quantity, the meat needed by the consumer. We would feel different about eating meat if in fact we spent an hour at the slaughter house.
For example: My wife and I make use of cremation and burial when it comes to family pets, because we've seen the realities of a rendering-plant when we lived in Nebraska.
Maybe the Jewish religion has the most humane form of slaughtering animals for human consumption, but, I don't know firsthand. However, if I had to visit a slaughterhouse, I'm quite sure I'd become a vegetarian on the spot.
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These are the people you want to believe and trust? They are not animal friendly.
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
http://www.animalscam.com/
http://www.thisistrue.com/peta.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/23/EDG11DC9BK1.DTL
rather then find these dogs homes, they killed them(warning video is disturbing)
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/the-truth-about-peta/3010526210
http://www.armyofgod.com/PETA.html
this is PETA
http://www.armyofgod.com/PETA.html -
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When we buy beef, this is the company we buy from. It is located in Chicago, Illinois. They have a very informative website.
http://www.dakotabeefcompany.com/
My wife says she read about the banquet dinners WITH ME in a BB post, maybe an older post where someone mentioned abuse talking place at their Slaughterhouses. We agree it was someone's relative who knew of this personally ( either through their work) or knew someone in that line of work relating to this trajedy. We both agreed " no wonder the Banquet meals only costs .99 cents" Our teenage son wanted us to buy them if I remember correctly. We haven't bought any since. So Donna, if you feel something is "fishy"as you say, and you feel I am making this up because "you wonder how I could remember this" feel free to avoid my posts. She remembers things better than I do, and she used to read the BB sometimes.
It certainly sounds like PETA isn't a credible organization. I'll check out the links in-depth later on. Might make a good topic for another thread. Leather belts & coats sound like a great topic for another thread also. Can we move on?
If anyone has additional links to the one's I posted concerning slaughter houses, that would be much appreciated. Any health related information such as the growth homones, antibiotics, drugs given to the cows and/or their feed, bible verses upon how to honor our "earthly tents" or any other bible verses etc.. would be helpful. Anything related to the thread "Eating Animals as Food" -
I have 'cleaned' fish, as well, but they, like the other aminals, were usually dead, as a rule, when I did this.
The live ones all would run or fly away when I tried this, except for the fish, who could not make it very far on dry land. ;)
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Leviticus 10:12-15 And Moses spake unto Aaron, and unto Eleazar and unto Ithamar, his sons that were left, Take the meat offering that remaineth of the offerings of the LORD made by fire, and eat it without leaven beside the altar: for it is most holy:
13 And ye shall eat it in the holy place, because it is thy due, and thy sons' due, of the sacrifices of the LORD made by fire: for so I am commanded.
14 And the wave breast and heave shoulder shall ye eat in a clean place; thou, and thy sons, and thy daughters with thee: for they be thy due, and thy sons' due, which are given out of the sacrifices of peace offerings of the children of Israel.
15 The heave shoulder and the wave breast shall they bring with the offerings made by fire of the fat, to wave it for a wave offering before the LORD; and it shall be thine, and thy sons' with thee, by a statute for ever; as the LORD hath commanded.
The Lord commanded the priests to eat portions of the sacrifices that were brought to them. It was the breast and shoulder pieces of the sacrificial animals. This was God's method of providing for the priests in Levitical system for the Levites had no inheritance of their own. The people provided for them.
It was a command of God for all Israelites and for their generations forever.
God commanded the Israelites to eat mean.
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A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel. Proverbs 12:10
In these verses, God sends the Isrealites meat to eat:
And there went forth a wind from the LORD, and brought quails from the sea, and let them fall by the camp, as it were a day's journey on this side, and as if it were a day's journey on the other side, round about the camp, and as it were two cubits high upon the face of the earth.
And the people stood up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails: he that gathered least gathered ten homers: and they spread them all abroad for themselves round about the camp. Numbers 11:31-32
God sends Elijah bread and meat to eat:
And the ravens brought him bread and flesh in the morning, and bread and flesh in the evening; and he drank of the brook. 1 Kings 17:6
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