Evidence the ancient Jews cultured their own yeast?
Fermented and Unfermented Wine
Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by steaver, May 21, 2012.
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Yeast grow naturally on the hulls of the grape. No culturing is necessary to produce wine. -
That's the point! When the grapes are juiced the yeast is already present so unless the juice is sterilized it will automatically turn into wine or vinegar. Birds can get drunk on unprocessed grapes. Grapes are not ripe in the month before Passover. Any liquid grape product must be wine or vinegar during Passover.
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From what I read, the Jews were in the habit of boiling their wines. Thus killing the yeast before it could ferment.
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The Bible is actually quite plain when it comes to grape harvesting. The Jewish people made wine in their area for hundreds of years. God was apparently pleased that they took such pride in their work. -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeast
There are locales around the globe where the endogenous "wild yeast" are desirable for good wine and the process is NOT so much a crap shoot, but I dare say this is not true in most places. -
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There ya have it folks, we now know that grape juice comes from dead animals and not from the grape.
Amazing. Someone better call up their local agriculturist and set them straight. -
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By the way, I have made wine myself and it is quite a natural process. Fermentation sets on as soon as the grapes are crushed. Vinegar is an aerobic process and wine is anaerobic. When you crush the grapes, the skins graviate to the top of the mixture, sealing the juice for fermentation. It is about as natural as natural can be. That is why Noah happened upon the wine without much learning needed. -
IF it was fermented wine that they boiled then the alcohol had just been effectively removed from it. If they were able to distill the vapors from that then they had just made BRANDY (I've often wondered just what the 'strong drink' of Mose's writings was; it's hard for me to imagine they had distilled spirits back then though). But then again, in no way do I believe those people were lacking in IQ at all.
It's untold the amount of knowledge that was lost during the 'dark ages' alone, after Christ. -
I think you need to read all of the scriptures reflecting debash and their meaning before you make ridiculous statements like the one above. -
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Perhaps you can point me to the verse where honey meant grape juice?
I love these electronic Bibles. -
Where does the word dibis come from - well, it has the same ancient roots as debash. -
From a Bible dictionary:
It is the futility of futilities to discuss the subject most of the time with people who ignore the plain teaching of the scripture. -
http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/passover/kosher-wine/
OK, it appears the process, prior to fermentation, was to differentiate Jewish RITUAL wine from that of pagans, i.e. KOSHER WINE. -
"Take a little honey" means grape juice?
For the authors of your "dictionary" that you failed to give a name for to get "grape juice" out of "take a little honey" requires a good imagination, I guess.
There is no indication in the Word of God that debash was ever used to signify grape juice.
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