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For Those that Think COVID-19 is Like the Flu...

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by InTheLight, Apr 7, 2020.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    No, they are not currently racing.

    No, horse racing is not a “blood sport” regardless of PETA’s propaganda.
     
  2. Reynolds

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    Its going to play out like this.
    1. Quarantine
    2. Wreck the economy
    3. Lift the quarantine
    4. Virus spreads and kills huge numbers.
    5. Virus killed who it would have killed anyway AND economy lies in shambles.

    If this really is a war against the virus, we win by fighting, not by hiding.
     
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    Foot ball, basket ball, hockey,soccer, etc are all blood sports.
    Who cares what the man does with his horses!
     
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    Wuhan wasn’t New York either yet here we are with a “worldwide” pandemic.
     
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  5. Reynolds

    Reynolds Well-Known Member
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    Thats how all viruses work. Problem is the nasty ones mutate and you are only partially immune to the mutation.
     
  6. InTheLight

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    People get added to the death toll who die of the flu but have underlying conditions. It happens every year.

    Anecdotal evidence of one instance is not data. I know you know this.
     
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  7. KenH

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    CDC guidance has already said to count deaths as COVID-19 deaths even if there is no proof. Basically, saying to list it as such if you “think” it is.

    “In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely.” - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
     
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    Again, I don't think all the deaths they are attributing to COVID-19 are really COVID-19 deaths.

    And there was also an interesting article in the UK Spectator last week about how deaths are reported and flu deaths often are not counted.

    How deadly is coronavirus? It's still far from clear

    So no, there is not enough data.
     
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  9. Scott Downey

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    If there is no acquired immunity, then there is only death for everyone. As long as this does not evolve-mutate too much there is immunity. People who recover develop antibodies to the virus, it is why they get better. It is why they are asking for plasma donors who recovered to use their plasma as a treatment.

    Lets stick to the facts, for example this
    The 'certified recovered' from Covid-19 could lead the economic recovery - STAT
     
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  10. KenH

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    Comparing one densely populated area to another densely populated area means nothing about conditions in most of the United States which is not densely populated.
     
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    The virus is everywhere.
     
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  12. KenH

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    It is not in every town. It is not in every county. And certainly in most places it is not like it is in NYC-New Jersey.
     
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    Yep, But the economy is going to get wrecked everywhere.
     
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    Bingo!
     
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    Another difference between the flu and COVID-19 is that COVID-19 is roughly twice as contagious as flu. That is, the flu typically gets passed to 1.3 people for every person that has it, whereas COVID-19 gets passed to 2.5 people for every person that has it.
     
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  16. InTheLight

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    Who do we want in charge of fixing it when the dust settles? Trump or Biden?
     
  17. KenH

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    So many people: “Please save us, Mr. Government, from this virus! We’ll let you have any power and give up any liberty you demand.” Then, after Mr. Government crashes the economy in fighting the virus, “Please save us, Mr. Government, from this economic collapse. We’ll let you have any power and give up any liberty you demand.”
     
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    I saw a doctor on the news fussing because he was having to list flu deaths a covid 19 deaths.
     
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    To make this claim you have to compare it to when the flu first came about.
     
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    I'm telling you the numbers are inflated.
     
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