questdriven, you say that homosexual, bisexual is merely a description of one's attractions, but not their actions. Thus one can be rightfully be called a gay Christian, homosexual Christian, bisexual Christian etc., so long as they don't act on their desires.
But is this the way God uses the term and wants the term used?
1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals. (Mounce)
Is God here (through Paul) saying that anyone who has homosexual attractions will not inherit heaven? I don't think so. I believe there are people who struggle with these attractions, and put them out of their minds and have victory. These, therefore, should rightly be called former homosexuals, in that they've forsaken that lifestyle for the Gospel.
My fear is that you're encouraging people to hold onto the homosexual bisexual label giving it existential power over them. My fear is you're doing this to yourself. I don't think this tactic jives with the Gospel message. You mean well. You believe you're reaching people, but I wondering if your'e merely appeasing them and stopping them from fully renouncing homosexuality.
Gay Christians?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Calminian, Dec 30, 2019.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
No such thing as gay Chtistian
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Particular Well-Known Member
There are four Christians who would be the best to speak on this subject.
Christopher Yuan, Rosaria Butterfield, Sam Allberry and Jackie Hill Perry .
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Scripture is best to speak on it
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evenifigoalone Well-Known Member
Those of us who are side B usually call ourselves celibate gays to set ourselves apart. That is if we don't explain that we are side B.
If orientation is defined by actions, then a heck of a lot of gay men are straight or at least bi, because many do marry women (due to societal expectations) before they realize they aren't attracted to women. (Some don't realize they are gay until they are in their 30's or 40's, due to not wanting to admit it to themselves.) Therefore I will continue to define it by the attractions one experiences.
There are a few in the side B group, while side B doesn't believe that calling ourselves gay is wrong, who do prefer to say "same sex attracted". (The main thing that sets side B apart from side X is we don't believe in conversion therapy, we believe conversion therapy is bad for mental health, and we don't believe our orientation will--in most cases--change.)
I believe my experience as a bi person is actually a good thing for witness--the LGBT community is very, extremely, opposed to side X. My experience is that side B also gets A LOT of flack, but seeing as many of us are involved in the LGBT community to some capacity or another, we at least attempt to plant seeds.
Edit: But for the record I identify moreso as an asexual than anything. This is largely because I am not out to family and irl friends, and never plan to be. There's too much for me to potentially lose if I did let that out. I'm only out online, in spaces where my family and friends either will never find me, or most likely won't go looking.
Regarding orientation change, I liken it to those who are delivered by God from addiction and never feel the cravings again. You know, those conversion stories. But the reality is that most addicts don't get that experience. Most still struggle with their addiction and with recovery, and they have to fight their tendency toward addiction for their entire lives. They may get out of that rut with God's help and grace, but they can't touch alcohol again without falling back into relapse. That's the reality they face, even as born again believers.
Most who experience same sex attraction and get saved will not experience an orientation change. Of course God CAN take that away--but most of the time He doesn't seem to
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Why would you want to identify yourself with your sin? Should one be called a:
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evenifigoalone Well-Known Member
I see me being LGBT the same
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