Sounds like Steaver wants to get to heaven in a hurry. Apparently the prospect of getting his nails dirty in a little spritual warfare is too much for him to handle. :laugh:
Calm down and take a deep breath you'll get there when the Lord see's fit. Easy escapism isn't going to get you anywhere but sad and depressed when you find yourself still here 20 or 30 years from now living under a tryanny you could have at least tried to do something about when you had the chance. You got kids Steaver?
*God is the one who placed Obama as President of these United States of America
Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by steaver, Apr 7, 2009.
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I don't believe that God "placed" Obama in office. I believe that God allowed Obama to take office. Sometimes bad things happen for a reason. Sometimes God allows bad things to happen to us to see how we handle it (to test us). Read the Book of Job. I also believe that often times good things come out of bad situations.
I believe the reason Obama was allowed to take office was to serve as a wake up call. When we stray from the path that God wants us on, we get crummy leadership from the cheif executive. Of course, I mean "we" as a nation. -
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What do you think JustChristian? Should we be "discerning the signs of the times", "seeing the Day approaching"?
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You didn't answer my question, what are you doing besides sitting on your computer chair and complaining?
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No. God blesses us and charges us to do His will. It is man who chooses to sin or perform evil. BTW, I beleive He allowed those men to come to power in raising good men against them and in exposing real evil. It is up to us to fight the good fight.
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How long are the "times"? 10 years? 100 years? 1000 years?
How does one know they are "discerning" correctly?
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Mat 16:3And in the morning, [It will be] foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O [ye] hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not [discern] the signs of the times?
Hbr 10:25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some [is]; but exhorting [one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
I am here admonishing believers to discern the signs of the times and watch as ye see the Day approaching and you are challenging me saying we shouldn't? What's up? Don't like what the scripture says or my application of the scripture? Tell me what these passages teach. Are we to discern the signs of the times and watch the Day approaching or not?
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God has however made it clear that lying and bearing false witness are evil. Yet I see it being done daily against Obama and it is supported by God's people. I find it odd to see a person say they can't support evil like abortion but appear very much in favor of spreading lies, bearing false witness and generating/propagating a spirit of fear which we didn't get from God.
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Hitler wanted the world for himself, he did not want a one world government of many countries, he wanted a one world dictatorship.
You'll have to give specifics of what signs you are thinking of throughout history and then we can compare them with what is going on today.
Do you not see the Day approaching? Have you discerned the signs of the times, (what are the signs you see) and if so what have you concluded?
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What if God is "post trib, post mil"
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How have you been discerning the signs of the times brother? Do you see the Day approaching? It's closer now than when we first believed!
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