How scared are the established Republicans of Trump? Enough to have two losers work together in the remaining primary states to drain delegates from Trump in an effort to stop the Donald before Cleveland.
How cowardly is this? If these guys think millions of voters will sit idly by on the butts and let one of these losers try to force a brokered convention with the hopes of gaining the nomination on a later vote, they have another thing coming. I don't think there has been anything like this before, and what I see happening is the end of the GOP.
DO ANY OF YOU THINK TRUMP WILL NOT RUN ON A THIRD PARTY TICKET, if these guys try to steal from the people, the popular candidates nomination?
GOP, Cruz and Kasich form first political tag team .....
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Apr 25, 2016.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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As I understand it, time is running out (a matter of the long established filing deadlines in the various states) for Mr. Trump to appear on the ballot as a third party candidate.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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However the deadline to register as such looms in Texas, May 9th, with almost 80,000 signatures. North Carolina's deadline is June 9 with about 90,000 siggies needed. Illinois, Indiana, and New Mexico are late June with the majority of the rest after the convention in July and August, and about 5 in September.
With the Texas deadline in a couple of weeks, he'll have to hurry. But if he runs as a third party candidate , he'll no longer be trying to win but to make things really bad for the GOP.
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Good! and Cruz is not establishment. However, Trump is a liar and not showing who he really is. He is an opportunist and quite frankly I think he could be worse that Hillary the more I see of him.
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That move will probably merely add momentum to the anti-Establishment movement and better Trumps's chances to get the 1237.
...and no logically reasonable minded persons believes the rhetoric that Trump has the "highest unpopularity ratings of any candidate in history" for not getting over 50% if they are unpretentious enough to figure in that there were never in history 17 candidates to contend with and/or the level overzealous Establishment "spoilers" with some staying in the race to siphon off votes and others who have dropped out holding back their delegates, and/or these Establishment Elitists willing to risk it all to promote propaganda, even to the point of damaging their own party and forsaking the election to the opposition as long as they can keep their jobs and the special interests checks coming in to them.
It will certainly be interesting to watch shifting take place as the GOPEEs take their lashes and get put into their place - that the government works for the people, not visa versa. Will there be enough momentum to reclaim the GOP party for the people? It just may be the time... -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
1. He hadn't won over 50% of any state until NY.
2. He's got the highest unfavorable/unpopularity ratings in history.
While somewhat tangentially related, not getting over 50% of the vote is not the same thing as unpopularity ratings.
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Supporting Trump is the suicidal move. -
I'm just wondering what Cruz would have said - if Kasich and Trump had that "aggrement"
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Baptist Believer Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
There are many more out there like me.
The Republican Party is not likely to win this time around because of Trump. If they nominate Trump, they will lose not only the election, but the respect of those who have been supporters for so many years. If they don't nominate Trump, they will lose quite a few people who believe Trump's rhetoric and they won't have enough support to win.
At least by not nominating Trump, they can salvage what is left of the GOP for another try after four years of Hillary and Bill Clinton's antics. -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
We know what Trump said. He likened it to colluding, and said if one colludes in business or in the stock market you go to jail. The implied statement is that Cruz and Kasich are crooks. Of course we all know that deals like this is politics. Apparently Trump doesn't know this. -
Circa 2005.
Circa a long time ago.Sneaky -
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Not nominating Trump will destroy the GOP too - why bother to attend a caucus or vote in a primary if some "insiders" are going to override your choice?
If he goes down in flames versus Hillary (and he probably won't), they can just run somebody else against her in four years.
The "alliance" will backfire, and least on Cruz. They should have done this three months ago, as Trump himself said, it is a matter of rigging and legal collusion. It's a turn-off. -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Furthermore, the nominee is the candidate put forth BY the party, so they can control who their nominee will be.
I would think your argument would apply much more to the Dems and their superdelegates, than to the GOP.
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Okay, right there is where we disagree - I think Trump will have enough to get their on the first ballot and this Cruz/Kasich alliance is too little too late, and Kasich is already reneging.
I think it's all over and Trump will sweep tomorrow and he's ahead in Indiana. He hired Manafort, who is a delegate specialist and he thinks Trump will finish over 1247.
The general election polls shouldn't be taken too seriously right now, but I'd like to see the numbers in states like Ohio, Florida, Missouri . . . Romney won Ohio by more than twenty points but lost in New York by over twenty points. Putting that number nationally is a distortion. -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Polls may show Trump winning in Indiana but remember these polls are asking the general public, they are not drilling down to the district level. Indiana is a winner take all by congressional district state. Cruz and Kasich will do well there. Trump might be lucky to get 3 delegates out of the 57 available.
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