You would have to move to C vs A section to properly debate that.
How should we respond to the shooting at the H/S shooting in Colorado?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Salty, Nov 22, 2022.
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4 in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn upon them.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus` sake.
6 Seeing it is God, that said, Light shall shine out of darkness, who shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 4 -
I have my C hat on today. -
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its another thing to be hated because you have a pharisee attitude.
Jesus said he did not come to judge but to save. -
17) Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
18) Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him. -
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that does not mean he will..
if he took our free will from us, and gave us everything we wanted, who would ever desire to follow him when he called? -
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did you read that passage in the old testament?
Jer 18:
3 Then I went down to the potter’s house, and there he was, making something at the a]">[a]wheel. 4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter; so he made it again into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to make.
5 Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying: 6 “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter?” says the Lord. “Look, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel! 7 The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, 8 if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it. 9 And the instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it, 10 if it does evil in My sight so that it does not obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said I would benefit it.
11 “Now therefore, speak to the men of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord: “Behold, I am fashioning a disaster and devising a plan against you. Return now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good.” ’ ”
Free will 101
He will punish, but if they repent, he will not punish.
he will bless. but if they turn evil, he will punish..
the clay became marred in his hand,, He did not destroy it..
Jesus also said to jerusalem. how often he wanted to take them under him, but they were not willing.. again free will
you can't have love or a relationship apart from free will. you have a dictatorship
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God did not make Hitler do evil. He allowed him to do it..God is not the author of Evil
if that makes me a deist then so be it
I do not put people under names, it never helps in a conversation, but causes to much assuming -
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We have totally different and opposing hermeneutics. I start with the Biblical premise that God is absolutely, totally sovereign and read the Bible with that as an overarching principle. You start with the man-centered premise that human beings are absolutely, totally sovereign within their sphere of activity and you read the Bible with that as an overarching principle. -
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did he go to the sinner when he was here and judge them, and kill them?
the harlot by the law should have been stoned. did he stone her? or did he say let he who has no sin cast the first stone? -
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You claim God is a dictator who ties strings to everyone and makes them do what he wants, basically the same lie that Got Satan to pull a 1/3 of the angels with him
I see God as a loving God who wants to give and give and give, Yet wants a relationship. so he gives people the freedom to do what they want to do.. -
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Your idea of God is basically no different than the gods of Greek mythology. -
Even this became a C/A debate. @Salty if you were trying to make a point consider it made.
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