By the way his position of uh not being spiritually dead prior to Christ is an anomaly.
If we are ever spiritually dead we would be dead indeed
Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by MB, Oct 31, 2019.
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Do you know when you were made alive in Christ?
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Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Oh great master of the scriptures please explain James claiming that with out the spirit the body is dead. If in fact we are literally dead.
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Should I assume that you don't know when you were made alive in Christ?
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The KJV translates Strong's G3498 in the following manner: dead (132x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
properly
one that has breathed his last, lifeless
deceased, departed, one whose soul is in heaven or hell
destitute of life, without life, inanimate
metaph.
spiritually dead
destitute of a life that recognizes and is devoted to God, because given up to trespasses and sins
inactive as respects doing right
destitute of force or power, inactive, inoperative
The word “dead” in James 2:26 is used metaphor.
Definition of metaphorically | Dictionary.com
Metaphor: a figure of speech in which a term or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable in order to suggest a resemblance, as in “A mighty fortress is our God.” -
False teachers read false doctrine into vague phrases.
We are conceived spiritually dead because we were "made sinners." Thus unholy, thus separated from God.
And to be spiritually dead results in limitations. Being spiritually dead we could do nothing by ourselves to make us holy and therefore able to unite with our holy God. False doctrine adds we cannot seek God at any time or fully trust in the gospel. But there is no support for this man-made addition to the limitations of being spiritually dead. -
Calvinist have claimed that in order for man to understand the gospel he must be regenerated. If man does not understand the gospel then he cannot have faith before Salvation. Faith come by hearing it is not some gift that is given to man. The gift is Salvation in eph. 2:8-9.
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James 2:26 is referring to the fact that if the spirit of a person is not within a body the physical body is dead. That has nothing to do with being spiritually dead. I know this must be hard for you to grasp but that is why I said it is irrelevant because we are talking about two TOTALLY different things.
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