From http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017113852_immigtaxes29.html
In 2009, the last year for which figures are available, employers reported wages of $72.8 billion for 7.7 million workers who could not be matched to legal Social Security numbers.
That total hit a record $90.4 billion, earned by 10.8 million workers, in 2007, just before the recession. Some of those were legal workers who simply made paperwork mistakes, but the majority are believed to be illegal immigrants.
Because those wages were reported by employers and not paid under the table, Social Security and Medicare deductions had to be made. A total of 12.4 percent of those wages went into the SSA system — 6.2 percent paid each by the worker and the employer. An additional 2.9 percent was paid into Medicare, half by the worker and half by the employer.
That means about $11.2 billion went into the Social Security Trust Fund in 2007, and $2.6 billion went into Medicare. While that money will be used to pay retirees and health-care beneficiaries, it most likely will never be claimed by the illegal immigrants who contributed it.
Illegals who pay their way
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by billwald, Dec 29, 2011.
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That is fine, Now deport them.
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Where I'm going <G> is that hiring illegals helps fund SS and Medicare and also is the the most efficient way of sending aid to Mexican families.
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Anywhere from half to a quarter of the population (depending upon the metro area) are on SS, SSI, or SSDI and nearly half overall are on SNAP. -
Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Paying Their Way - vs - Doing It Right!
The process of naturalization is what's missing in your chain of thought.
Get with the program, Bill. It is very American to expect that your neighbor be American (by naturalization if need be) too! :applause:
SEE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law
BTW-I have two different neighbors on my cul-de-sac who are Americans by naturalization, and both swear by it! They are both angry with the lack of this government's failure to enforce the laws they were required to adhere to more than 20 years ago! :tear: -
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Bible gives rules on how to treat strangers. There are 81 KJV references to "strangers" listed in www.biblegateway.com Nothing about requiring treating strangers as felons.
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exscentric Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
"There are 81 KJV references to "strangers""
Check the context and see how many of those passages are speaking of gentiles coming to the Jewish God for salvation. If that is the case your references speak nothing of illegal aliens. -
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Hey Bill.
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Our country needs more workers doing more work, building more families, buying more goods, etc. The secret to economic "growth" is growth that is necessary because of population growth and other things. If we deport thirteen million people, we rip out the heart of our nation where these illegals have already taken root. We have already seen farmers in Alabama ruined by poorly planned laws which devastated the farmer's workforce, bankrupting many of them and adding to the burden of an already sluggish economy.
It should not be illegal for hard workers to come to the USA to work. What should be made illegal is unionization laws which bankrupt businesses, welfare programs which pay healthy workers to remain idle, out of control govt health and welfare benefits which are paid for by the working taxpayers, and so forth.
Besides all this, Bill has it right. God tells us to befriend our neighbors and we should try to figure out how to do that while at the same time tightening up on the illegal alien problem. -
Deport them! Close the borders! Shut off all the aid and "comfort"!
My family history goes back to England, then to France. My great times x grandparents came into this country legally. They paid their dues.
My parents were hard working share cropper farmers who barely eeked out a living. Yet they paid their taxes and did all that was required of them by Caesar.
My mother died of cancer after racking up huge medical bills. Helped my father apply for assistance even though he didn't want to take "charity". But, he couldn't pay the bills on his meager social security checks. He was turned down because he owned 1, yes, one acre of land and a 3rd hand mobile home. Didn't matter that he was also providing a home for my disabled sister. Didn't matter that he had been laid off from the only job he could get at his age - night watchman.
He only lived a year longer than my Mom. During that time he made a payment every month on Mom's bills.
Treat illegals far better than my parents were treated? What do you think?
Condone what's happening today? What do you think?
The scriptures teach us to help the needy - widows and orphans.
The scriptures teach us to obey the laws of the land.
Correct me if I'm wrong. So far I haven't found any scriptures that urge us to aid lawbreakers at the expense of those truly in need through no fault of their own. What's going to happen to my sister when we're gone and can't help her any longer? When the illegal and legal freeloaders have drained public assistance dry? -
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