My Bible is open right now. I have been reading it between posts since 8:45 this morning.
I got up late today because I studied it between posts last night until about 2:00 am.
I read and study between posts and I read and study when I am NOT on baptistboard.
Invitation or Summons
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Luke2427, Dec 28, 2010.
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There is something wrong with the logic that allows human response to divine invitation. This is a common error made by some who try to understand theology in human terms.
We must understand that man exists in his own realm, but that too is under the sovereignty of God. It is called permissive will. Man performs all his evil deeds within his own realm, but God remains the sovereign ruler. The universe functions according to its own nature, but God has been seen to interfere with that nature. He alone has that right.
Cheers,
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I think you can.
And God does get my full attention.
And on average I only post about 9 posts a day.
That leaves me plenty of study time while NOT on baptistboard too. -
What does refuse mean?
re·fuse 1 (r-fy z )v. re·fused, re·fus·ing, re·fus·es
v.tr.1. a. To indicate unwillingness to do, accept, give, or allow: She was refused admittance. He refused treatment.
b. To indicate unwillingness (to do something): refused to leave.
2. To decline to jump (an obstacle). Used of a horse. -
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That being said, I have observed and interacted with Dr. Bob over the last eight years on BB, and I have found him to be extremely fair and tolerant of other's views, even when he finds them abhorrent (he'll usually express that in no uncertain terms when that happens).
He is one of the most credible people here, and I say that as one who has quite a few theological differences with him. Even when he is disagreeing with me (which is quite often), he has been quite gentlemanly and does not use his moderating powers to take unfair advantage.
I find him to be a very impressive individual and look forward to knowing him face-to-face in the fullness of God's kingdom. -
I agree Dr. Bob does do a great job here. But, he can get fired up when it comes to D.O.G. issues. Do we just write off any influence of the "General Baptist" in our history because we may not agree with them? Are they just "so called" Baptist?
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Isn't there a forum on this board just for polls???? One every once in a while by an occasional poster is fine but there is way to many in this section by the same poster.
Could a responsible moderator move these polls to the forum for polls? -
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Are his PMs different than his public posts? -
I wasn't attacking Bob, just stating the fact that this board, and him in particular, has different rules concerning reformed theology and those who are not reformed.
Do you think if a non-Calvinist started as many threads as Luke does on the other side of the coin, it would be tolerated here? I don't.
I though this was a Baptist board, not a Reformed Baptist board. -
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I voted "summons." From God's perspective, it is a command.
However, it is also an invitation in human context. For instance, a Christian could invite another person to obey God's command. -
I've only read the first pages of responces.... posts add up quickly!
Does it really matter whether I respond to an invitation or a summons?
In the end it's a choice, believe or perish!
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What gets me, as I read through this thread, is that whether it's an invitation or a summons...the scripture provided for both points of view indicate the option to refuse.
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I have never said that and for you to make such an accusation without support is low class.
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NO MAN can keep the commandments- yet God commands all men to do so.
Why? Paul said, "I had not known sin but by the law" and "the law is a schoolmaster bringing us to Christ" and "that sin might appear exceeding sinful".
God commands men to do what they cannot do. That is plain. It is abundantly clear. To say that God would NOT do that is clearly wrong and against the clear teaching of Scripture.
God absolutely does command men to do what they cannot do.
That they cannot do it is tremendously clear as well. Paul said, "The carnal mind is at enmity with God and is not subject unto the law of God NEITHER CAN IT BE."
The carnal man CANNOT be subject to it but God commands him to any way.
Repentance is also a command. "God commandeth all men everywhere to repent."
To say that God would not command men to repent if they cannot requires support. You cannot offer any support because it is not there.
There is absolutely NO reason to say that God would not command men to repent who cannot, especially when it is abundantly clear that he does that with the commandments. -
A summons to come to Christ comes from the Spirit of God. Paul is clear that "the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God NEITHER CAN HE..." (I Corinthians 2:14)
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