Is Eating Pork Wrong?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by gekko, Aug 18, 2006.

  1. Petra-O IX Active Member

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    If eating pork is wrong , I don't wanna be right.
    O.K. I'm just kidding I'm not very big pork fan anyway.
     
  2. Petra-O IX Active Member

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    Oops I did it again. I just plagarized what LeBuick posted in post#50.
    Sorry LeBuick, thats what I get for not keeping up with the thread.
     
  3. LeBuick New Member

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    That's ok, the group needed a baritone...
     
  4. Eric B Active Member
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    That's not answering the question! Does this verse (19) continue today? Can it not be a "bad Bible" and still be the Word of God, yet not be binding on us today (regardless of 18)? Or is it too still binding?
     
  5. Claudia_T New Member

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    Jesus was quoting right from there when He said to love God and love your neighbor.

    That has always been the foundation of the Law of God. That never changes.
     
  6. Amy.G New Member

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    Still no answer to the question. Is Lev 19:19 still binding?
     
  7. BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    understood.

    But the question is - did God our Creator -- Christ Himself - actually know what He was talking about when He said that rats, cats, puppies and bats are not "food" for humans?

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  8. BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    I thought we did answer that.

    Lev 19:18 is part of the Good Bible where God had "good ideas" "Love your Neighbor as yourself" Who can possibly turn a blind eye to that?



    Lev 19:19 is part of the bad Bible where God was just being mean to Jews. So that would be a good text to ignore then slip behind that text when God says not to eat rats and as you do tell Him "hey just so you know -- you had a bad idea in Lev 19:19 how do I know that your idea about not eating rats isn't just another bad idea? I don't want to get tricked into reading and obeying the bad part of scripture Lord".

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
  9. BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    That was what I was exploring with you -- the "pick and choose" approach to scripture taking vs 18 but declaring vs 19 to belong to the "bad bible".


    And that neat thing is we could take that same approach to Lev 11 - letting God have all the animals that we really don't want to eat as "good ideas not to eat" (rats, cats ,dogs, mice) but then selecting out from among His list anything that would be too inconvenient for us to listen to Him about -- too restrictive on our wants and preferences to allow Him to go ahead with it.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  10. Amy.G New Member

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    Not yet. It's a yes or no question.
     
  11. Eric B Active Member
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    [triple post]
     
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  13. Eric B Active Member
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    We didn't ask you to explore anything. That's the problem. Your "exploring" allows you to keep sidetracking the question. Nobody here declared any "good vs. bad Bible". You made that up. Nobody has ever declared that SOME of the animals in ch.11 are still forbidden, but not those we are used to eating. (I don't eat pork, so how could I even do that anyway?)
    The question is do you still obey this verse? (19:19) If not, then YOU are the one "picking and choosing" based on your criteria that "it's in the Word of God like v.18, and v.18 is still binding; and commands can only be abolished if they are from a 'bad Bible'".
     
  14. Claudia_T New Member

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    Think you said that enough times Eric? :)

    Just kidding, I know it was accidental
     
  15. dispen4ever New Member

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    Yes, unless it is a ham sandwich with potato chips and salsa dip and your favorite beverage, at a picnic.

    No, Lev 19:19 is not binding.

    :type:
     
  16. Amy.G New Member

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    yum!
     
  17. Brother Bob New Member

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    You can't steal your neighbor's pig and eat it, if that is why you are asking?
     
  18. BobRyan Well-Known Member

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    First Eric said --


    Then Bob Said
    Originally Posted by BobRyan
    That was what I was exploring with you -- the "pick and choose" approach to scripture taking vs 18 but declaring vs 19 to belong to the "bad bible".

    And that neat thing is we could take that same approach to Lev 11 - letting God have all the animals that we really don't want to eat as "good ideas not to eat" (rats, cats ,dogs, mice) but then selecting out from among His list anything that would be too inconvenient for us to listen to Him about -- too restrictive on our wants and preferences to allow Him to go ahead with it.

    In Christ,

    Bob[

    Then Eric totally forgets what he JUST POSTED above -- and says

    YOU said "Can it not be a "bad Bible" and still be the Word of God, yet not be binding on us today (regardless of 18)? Or is it too still binding?"

    Simple question.... rat sandwich... in or out?

    Cat and kitten burgers -- in or out?

    Do we let God get by with telling us that as the Creator He has not made these animals as FOOD for us??

    Rat sandwiches?? How in the world can a Christian get so married to such a thing that they would turn a blind eye to God's Word as it tells us NOT to eat rats????

    THEN WE don't have to let God tell us not to eat rats!??

    I see -- hmm what a great doctrinal basis for an argument.

    It never occurred to me to use such tactics.

    In Christ,

    Bob
     
  19. Amy.G New Member

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    It appears as though Bob will never answer the question. I can understand why he would avoid it.
     
  20. Eric B Active Member
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    Simple question.... different kinds of seed... in or out?

    cotton and polyester clothes -- in or out?

    Do we let God get by with telling us that as the Creator He has not made these plants to be mixed??

    Mixed fabrics ?? How in the world can a Christian get so married to such a thing that they would turn a blind eye to God's Word as it tells us NOT to mix fabrics????

    Do we not keep sacrifices anymore?

    THEN WE don't have to let God tell us not to mix fabrics!??

    I see -- hmm what a great doctrinal basis for an argument.

    It never occurred to me to use such tactics.
    :rolleyes: :BangHead: