I think some are confusing paying for sins with living with the consequences of sin.
Being chatized is not "paying dearly" for sin, two completely different things.
I am so glad I know I am secure in Jesus, He died for my sins, all of them, He paid the only acceptable price for them.
is every sin really under the blood?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by deacon jd, Sep 15, 2006.
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Is His Power limited? Is His Grace limited? Is His Forgiving limited? Many believe so. -
I repeat: "The blood covers ALL sins or NO sins."
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Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we that are dead to sin continue any longer therein? If ya'll enjoy sinning just because you believe that the blood will keep on covering your sins and Gods grace is abundant(and it is) I wouldn't want to see what will take place to all of your works and rewards at the judgement seat of Christ.
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Nobody on this thread, as far as I can tell, seems to be singing, "I once was lost in sin, but now I know my way around..." or anything along those lines.
Although I admit, I do seem to be able to come up with at least a vague idea of one or two who may seem to 'enjoy judging'. :rolleyes:
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God in His infinite wisdom, gave us 1John 1:9, If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness..
Be careful when you judge others of sinning. Anyone who believes they never sin after getting saved is sadly mistaken.
1John1:10, If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
And as far as our works and our 'righteousness', they will all be judged as filthy rags - whether we sin or not...
Isa 64:6, But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. -
And as far as our works and our 'righteousness', they will all be judged as filthy rags - whether we sin or not...
Isa 64:6, But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.[/QUOTE]
This is a prime example of misapplication of scripture. Nowhere in this verse is there any mention of the judgement seat of Christ or the trying of our works by fire. Nice try, but no cigar. Our righteousness is simple it is Christ and him alone. Don't fool yourself those who live in sin will not see the kingdom of God. We commit sin as believers, but there is a certain fearful looking for of judgement and fiery indignation that comes with being one of Gods children when we disobey our heavenly Father. There is no excuse for the sin in your life, and it will not be overlooked by a Holy God. Jesus did not die on the cross so that you can live a life of sin. Jesus died on the cross so that we can be saved from sin. We must crucify the flesh. If you can do what ever you want, and never be convicted of your sins, and just say Oh Well I guess that one is under the blood too then you probably do not have what you think you have. -
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That one "spiritual baptism" washed us clean. If we think His blood must be continually applied then there was no reason for our God to spill His own Holy Everlasting Living Blood. We today (this dispensation) are the only one's from the beginning that was not asked to make "blood sacrifices" of animals to cover until time He "shed His own blood". That is Old, and every thing is now New as that Old cloth is tattered and torn, and cannot hold to this New cloth we are clothed in. We are in Him, and His "garments have been washed in wine (His blood Genesis 49:11), meaning we are already placed in heaven for that is where He is, and we in the Body Church are spiritually living there. Can we sin while in Him in heaven?
Am I saying we are without sin? No way for we believe Christ from heaven as He revealed to Paul we are blessed for our iniquities have been forgiven, our sins permanently covered, as sin is not imputed to us - Romans 3:30-31.
We are sealed in and nothing can break that seal, and He is not about to let us go. The Bridegroom has chosen those that are brought into His "Body Church". When it is full we will be caught up with those other in His Body Church, and this will then allow prophecy to continue to the Tribulation period, and then into the "Kingdom Church". -
Are you saying that you do not sin? If so, according to MY Bible, you are calling God a liar...
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The understanding is we are sinners (must have sins) but our sins are not imputed to us. Hope this understanding will be of help.
Wife says gotta' go with her now to buy some kin folks wedding presents. May get back to this this evening.
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I don't think anyone has said they enjoy singing, or that it is ok to go around sinning because of God's grace.
John wrote to us telling us what to do when we sin, confess, he also told us we will sin, and if we say we don't sin we are liars and the truth is not in us.
It is our goal to become more like Jesus, through the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit. This in no way means we will never sin, and it is never alright to sin. But we will not reach perfection till we are done in this life of flesh.
Jesus died to buy us back from sin, He paid the price God demanded for sin, the bible says you are not your own, you were bought with a price. You belong to Him, we are to live as if we belong to Him, still does not mean we will never sin, but as scripture says He is faithful to forgive us.
Is God happy when we sin, no and neither should we be, but we will not reach sinlessness until we are dead and in heaven.
Jesus paid for our sin, we do not, nothing we can ever do in this life or the next can ever pay for one single sin. We suffer consequences of sin in this life(which is not paying for sin, it is sufferng what we casued), but we will never be rejected because of sin once we have been saved, Jesus said He would not loose a single one the Father had given Him. That is security.
Our righteousness comes from Jesus, not us and our list of dos and dont's, we did not earn it, we did not come by it on our own, we do not keep or maintain it, it is Jesus'.
Unless you think Jesus can not keep what the Father has given Him, that His righteousness is not enough.
Those who think we are not going to sin after salvation, does that mean you think you don't sin? Do you think you are responsible for your continued salvation? -
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