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Is God Insincere With The Gospel Offer?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Feb 28, 2021.

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  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    Apologies for misunderstanding you
     
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    is flesh philosophy and adding to the scripture where another consideration is what the rest of the Bible TEACHES.
     
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    What Martin wrote does not require "that all sinners must possess a "free will"". The Calvinist sees perfect congruity between God's sovereign decree and man's choices. Besides, no man possesses perfect knowledge. God has ordained vessels of clay to preach the Gospel. It is God who moves sinners to repentance and faith. Ergo, the Calvinist eagerly wants the Gospel to be preached to all because it is the means of salvation for all who have been predestined to eternal life.
     
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    And the gospel must first be proclaimed to all nations.
    ~ Mark 13:10
     
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    I think that person is from England.
     
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    Martin has offered you truth and good advice. Why not take it?
     
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    sbw, provides an if/then/if argument, but he doesn't understand or comprehend that Jesus death is an atoning new covenant with his chosen people. Therefore, when sbw requires Jesus atoning death to cover all humans, he declares that all humans are included in the new covenant and Jesus atoning blood makes all humanity entirely righteous through that covenant, which God makes with himself. Just as Abraham did nothing when God walked through the animal carcasses that were split in two (God walked through by Himself and swore by Himself), so Humans do nothing when Jesus went to the cross and died for my sins. Jesus death is particular to the sheep for whom he paid their sin debt. He did not pay for the entire human race.

    The above comment by sbw is really an accusation against God. That should scare sbw, if he were aware of what he was doing.
     
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    this is theological nonsense! WHY would God proclaim Good News to EVERY human being, and then intend it only for the "elect"? This is grand deception!
     
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    which is what reformed/calvinistic theology IS, man-made nonsense in the most part!
     
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    because it is FALSE!
     
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    REMEMBER, YOU ARE REASONING WITH A MIND EFFECTED BY THE CURSE OF THE FALL.
     
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    Like yours :rolleyes:
     
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    I can just hear that message - now some of you, and only God knows who, will be able to actually understand my message this morning, as for the rest of you, you were damned from all eternity and nothing you can do will save yourself or your loved ones.

    Now here is that message - Christ died for some of you for no known reason, God just decided to save a few. He made the rest of you so you are unable to desire God's righteous perfection, or His peace, or any of the other blessings of heaven. Nope, you down deep hate God. Can't you just see the audience applauding. :)
     
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    We show The Bible and you think it's not The Truth.

    That is the sin-cursed reasoning I'm talking about.

    You have been taught error by pure heretics.

    Then, they told you to cry.

    What did they tell you to think in order to think you are 'saved by grace'?

    What were you 'told'?

    Repeat a 'prayer'?

    What are you 'thinking'?
     
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    :Laugh:rolleyes::Biggrin:Roflmao
     
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    Oh, you're just giggling.

    Jesus is Coming.
     
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    Accusation #1
     
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    Because you are nuts!
     
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    In fact, the Bible gives you the answer, though you clearly won't like what it shares.

    Acts 13:48

    And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.
     
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    Yet more misuse of the Bible to promote heresy
     
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