I've Given Up Dispensationalism...

Oh let me see if I can come up with a clever rejoinder to this, OR. Let me think........how about "You are the typical non-dispensationalist. You twist the Scripture to fit your false beliefs". Wow! That's almost as enlightening as your comment. Come on, OR, make an actual argument for your position and stop the posturing! :thumbs:

 

I present Scripture to prove your mythology wrong but as all people who are caught up in mythology you refuse to see the truth. The Apostle Peter tried to warn against such as you but????

2 Peter 3:16. As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.:wavey:

 

By God's grace, OR, I'll see you in the new Jerusalem. If that's my destruction, I'll take it!

 

That's the easy part.
Everyone on this board can present Scripture to prove mythology wrong (true mythology, like the Greeks). Personalizing a person's beliefs and then labeling them as myth is a personal attack. You know better.

However to present Scripture to prove that truth is wrong, now that is impossible to do.

 

This is the first I've heard, of a Baptist labeling another Baptist's christian beliefs as mythology with "scripture" to prove it!!

The bible divided against itself cannot stand!! lol

:smilewinkgrin:

Darren

 

I don't believe in Baptists Doctrines. Rather, I believe in Bible doctrines, whether held by Baptists or not.

 

With all due respect, so does the ECA.

 

Despite some of the snarky comments, swaimj does make a good point when asking what things the OP finds problematic in Pentecost's work..?

I would add that Dispensational Theology is like any other theological system -- it is a construct to understand the revelation of Scripture, but is not insipred in itself. Also, finding the writings of one particular Dispensationalist problematic does not mean every other Dispensationalist is wrong -- or that he/she agrees with Pentecost.

For instance, I find the "Left Behind" series of FICTION to be interesting entertainment, but there are several theological flaws. Don't look to them for a consistently good example of "Dispensational Theology." And remember, Dispensationalists are just human -- JUST like all the theologians that hold to other perspectives -- so, none are perfect, nor will we agree 100% with every one on every issue...

 

Thomas:

Sorry I missed this -- but, who or what is the "ECA" you refer to here??

 

I agree. That is the reason that we have the move from classic dispensationalism to progressive dispensationalism which mimics Historic premillennialism.

 

The mythology referenced in my response to swaimj was the idea that the New Jerusalem, the Church, the Bride of Jesus Christ, was a literal fulfillment of the promise to Abraham and his seed of everlasting possession of Caanan! That is mythology whether anyone else agrees or not. It certainly is not biblical.

 

And they keep digging themselves into a deeper hole other than the progressives who are trying to climb out.

 

If you are accusing me of being snarky, that is certainly not my intention. I am simply pointing out that OR consistently makes dogmatic statements with no proof and states his conclusions without giving any argumentation. And, as you point out, my early question has not been addressed by either OR or the originator of the thread. Baptist Board is a discussion board, not a "empty assertion" board.

 

Sorry Swaimj -- I was NOT speaking of you, but of other posters. Your comments were perfectly reasonable.

 

I'm looking forward to that marriage between the new heavens and the new earth as my eternal abode.

And not some eternal existence in a disembodied state floating around some celestial clouds for all of eternity.

 

me too! :)

 

Sorry, my bad. I ment The Episcopal Church in America.

 

What group do you know that holds to such a view?

 

No they did not get it right the first time so they had to go to the progressive aspect so it fits all categories at one time or another.

 

I thought they were one and the same brother TC. Historic Premillenialism and Dispensationalism.
Do you mind giving this ignoramus a short lesson on comparative eschatology ?
thank you.