that is fair....
Lets put it this way....
If sinning was picking up a rock, Christ had the power in his body to pick up that rock.
However, being that he was not from Adam but was the second Adam, and was not born with the sin nature, he had no desire to sin (pick up the rock) as we have.
Is that clear?
Jesus had a human nature?
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Salamander, Jul 15, 2008.
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Most of us will say Jesus Christ is 100% man and 100% God. So which part(s) died of the cross? Can God die? Can God suffer? On the other hand, could our sins be atoned for if He didn't?
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I'm not saying Jesus had a sin nature; he couldn't because he was God.
Where are you getting this "speaking lies" stuff? If it's from Ps. 5, that is about the wicked:
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I said it was from Ps. 5 but it's Ps. 58. SFIC was saying that the Bible says everyone comes forth from the womb speaking lies, but this passage says "the wicked." I think we should go by what the text says. I was trying to point that out. -
God had the body prepared for Him before He even was placed in the womb.
He was human in that He was flesh, bone, and blood.
But He did not have every trait of a human, for it was not in Him to sin as it is in you or I. So, in that respect, He was not 100% human even though He was 100% human flesh.
As nunatak pointed out, He had no desire to sin, none whatsoever. So that was missing from the human traits that Christ had. -
The fact is, they are both the same thing.
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They must've not studied enough. They not only missed on the fact that Jesus was not born with a sin nature, so therefore was not 100% human even though 100% God in a 100% flesh body.
They missed on election too. Maybe if they truly understood election, they would have understood the rest of what Christ wanted them to know. -
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I answered that question -- Post #31. :D
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Christ was the 2nd Adam ...the begining of the new man....a new race...a new people. Christ had the power in him to sin, but unlike Adam did not fall into sin. He had vicory over sin, and there by won the fight over death also.
The new race , or all that are born again or born from above, will leave the old man (Adam) and become sons of God in the new nation.
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Aren't "human nature" and "sin nature" usually used interchangeably?
If we say that Christ had a human nature, is that the same thing as saying He had a sin nature, since human nature is sinful? :confused: -
He was/is fully human/fully God.
Just because He cant/wont sin doesn't make Him less than human, it makes Him perfectly human.
NKJ Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.
Flesh - sarx (look it up). He was born of woman, a mortal human being subject to death (obviously).
Hebrews 2:16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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see my post above. :)
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