John Calvin's Treatise Against the Ana-Baptist

You are following the lead of Rocky in his wackiness.

I'm more of a Calvin man than a Luther fan. Luther was better before 1525 than afterwards.

I agree about how terrible and wretched that particular piece of writing you referenced above was. I have said the same for 40 years.

 

The above is accurate.

 

I consider myself Wesleyan. However a good Wesleyan revival is only good for a few decades before it grows cold and we become just as Laodicean as the rest of the church. So I lean more non denominational.

 

I believe there are bad apples that grow on every denominational tree.

 

Would you be a member of a Lutheran Church?

 

There is such a wide array of spirits in churches these days. I would have to visit and see. I visited a Baptist Church once where the young people met in a seperate building where you could hear the religious rock and roll through the walls. Then there are Baptist churches that are more traditional and more to my liking. I do not believe we can judge people by what hangs on the shingle these days.

 

We have a Presbyterian church near by. Instead of bible studies they want to talk about environmental issues. So that is not my kind of place either. Come to think about it, it is hard to find people who like discussing bible these days. I bet most people do not know who John Calvin and Jacob Arminius were, much less have a meaningful conversation about them.

 

Would an "apology" from that Presbyterian pastor man anything to you? You do know that the Lutheran was of the same Progressive Liberal DNA, yet you posted his apology story.

 

What bishop Mark Hansen showed here was more than an apology... This was pure repentance! You can see great determination in this mans eyes to settle this thing right, in which he did. And you also see a godly joy in the people around him, proud of the decision he had made.

 

Have you ever heard of virtue signaling?

 

It should be noted that the modern baptist movement did not grow out of the Anabaptist movement. The modern baptist movement developed out of the English separatists. Two strains of theology were seen in the Baptist movement nearly from the beginning--the General Baptists and the Particular Baptists. The General Baptists held to unlimited atonement and the Particular Baptists, as you might imagine, held to a particular, or limited, atonement. To greater or lesser degrees, the modern baptist movement does have a reformed strain in it going back almost to the beginning of the movement.

The Archangel

 

Your understanding, though, is not accurate. Smyth and Helwys were General Baptists; the Particulars came later. The phrase "Correlation does not prove causation" is helpful here. While there might be some similarities in some doctrines, the denominations are not the same. There is no evidence I've read linking the General Baptists and the Anabaptists and there is no scholar I know that would support your position.

The Archangel

 

You have my sympathies. Is Davey your idol? It sounds like it.

John MacArthur was not and is not a hyper-Calvinist.

 

1. Did you know that the BBN carries programs from Calvinists? It seems not. But I assure you, it's true.

2. Did you know that there are reformed Baptists who don't hold to paedobaptism?

This is just a partisan rant using partisan sources.

 

''True Christian believers are sheep among wolves, sheep for the slaughter...' - Conrad Grebel, cofounder of a Swiss Bretheren movement , an anabaptist in that he had baptized folk the second time.

If the year was 1524, and I had my choice of being a Catholic, Calvinist, Lutheran, or Anababtist.... I would think, even though it would cost me my life, my best bet as a Christian would be Anabaptist.

 

Have the Anabaptists ever apologised for what went on in Munster?
Just wondering.

 

Most anabaptist believed, "True Christian believers are sheep among wolves, sheep for the slaughter..." And we're non violent. Jan Mattys was an exception, and was not at all like his elder, Melchior Hoffman. Most anabaptist would agree that Mattys should of remained as a non violent sheep, and should not have started a rebellion, which cost him his life.

 

There is a reason they were called the end of the dark ages.

I see a lot ranting, but no scripture to support your views. I haven't seen even one independent source. Give me a Bible and that's all I need.

I'm not accusing you of anything, but the lack of scripture support is noticeable.

I hear you can be adopted by the Amish.