John MacArthur - We are Not Saved by The Blood Of Jesus Christ!

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  1. Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    You are the one that don't know what you are on about.
     
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    I am addressing what JM says here, as I have said so many times. I do NOT separate the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. but the Bible is very clear, that Atonement is in the BLOOD, and not the BODY! Show me ONE Scripture that says that Jesus' BODY made Atonement?
     
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    dude, I can see that you really CANNOT answer what JM means here, because you really disagree with what he says, but cannot bring yourself to say that your fellow Calvinist is WRONG here!
     
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    Why can't you answer the question?
     
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    Oh I understand English fine, not sure you do.
     
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    "Do you think that He (Jesus) had to bleed, no, not to save us". Now address this

    I will keep asking you about this, until you respond from the Bible, or tell me that what JM says is wrong, or that you are not interested in responding. You simply cannot attack me for misrepresenting and misunderstanding JM, and then IGNORE what he says with his own mouth, because it is WRONG!
     
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    I have addressed, this, you take one little line out of the context. There is nothing wrong with what JM said, nor does it go against Scripture. You did something, as you do with others, you took comments or writings out of context in order to make it appear they were arguing something they were not.
     
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    so, just to be clear here, you are in full agreement with what JM says in this clip, which is what this thread is about, and not his other works or remarks? You here accuse me of taking JM out of context, HOW can he saying that Jesus Christ did not have to bleed to save us, be out of any context? it is a clear statament! Now show that I am in error with proof, and not just your biased sticking up for the guy!
     
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    Because he was talking about general bleeding. He did not say blood was not required. I am in FULL agreement with his statement which is not the false narrative you have put forth. You should repent.
     
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    There is not ONE verse in the entire 66 Books of the Holy Bible, that teaches that Jesus made Atonement by His Body. But, we have a few passages that do say that Atonement is in His BLOOD. Again, feel free to show me to be wrong from the Word of God. I wait...
     
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    A 3second segment from a video over 4 min long and you do not understand how that is out of context? You, the great linguist?
     
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    Who said this? strawman.
     
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    here it is for the millionth time,

    "Do you think that He (Jesus) had to bleed, no, not to save us"

    I have increased the font in case you have problems reading!

    show WHERE it says "general bleeding"? He refers to JESUS CHRSIT!
     
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    it is a clear statament. whether 1 second or 1 hour, time is not the issue here, but CONTENT.
     
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    Put a transcript of the WHOLE video and any honest person will see your misrepresentation.
     
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    out of context statement
     
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    I rest my case on this, baecause it is very clear that those who defend the man, do so whether he is right or wrong!
     
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    PLEASE BE MY GUEST.
     
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    Yet another FALSE accusation. Amazing how you continue to defend Biblical error :Biggrin

    Not the first time as you do the same with your Calvinism :rolleyes:
     
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    From the very opening of the video we see he is not saying what you claim him to say. Context matters. I would say outright what you are doing but it is against the rules or something like that.