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Masks: Do they work? CDC Says No

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Reformed1689, May 20, 2021.

  1. Reformed1689

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    Who is the science denier now? It's the mask proponents.
     
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    I addressed this in the post above it.

    Here are the 5 studies they looked at that assessed masking source infectious patient and seeing if household contacts get infected.

    Facemasks and hand hygiene to prevent influenza transmission in households: a cluster randomized trial - PubMed

    Preliminary findings of a randomized trial of non-pharmaceutical interventions to prevent influenza transmission in households - PubMed

    Impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions on URIs and influenza in crowded, urban households - PubMed

    Findings from a household randomized controlled trial of hand washing and face masks to reduce influenza transmission in Bangkok, Thailand - PubMed

    The role of facemasks and hand hygiene in the prevention of influenza transmission in households: results from a cluster randomised trial; Berlin, Germany, 2009-2011 - PubMed

    In all of them there was a reduction in the masked group vs the unmasked group when you mask the infected patient. That reduction was not statistically significant which is a common problem in small underpowered studies when you are assessing a difference that is small. The designers of those studies also note methodology problems of things like

    1) the masking may have been given too late and the household contacts were already exposed by the time the masking started.
    2) poor adherence to correct consistent use of the masks.
     
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    Because that is what the evidence states occurs.

    https://jammi.utpjournals.press/doi/full/10.3138/jammi-2020-0030

     
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    No. That's what Trump said and he was a disaster at slowing the spread of this virus. Read and learn.

    Things to Know about the COVID-19 Pandemic | CDC

    Important Ways to Slow the Spread
    Masks are a critical step to help prevent people from getting and spreading COVID-19. A cloth mask offers some protection to you as well as protecting those around you. Wear a mask and take every day preventive actions in public settings and mass transportation, at events and gatherings, and anywhere you will be around other people.
     
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    Social distancing works without masks, but you have to be MUCH farther away. The mist from our breath travels a surprising distance, so masks diffuse the jet of aerosols, allowing us to be 6-8 feet apart without much risk.

    THAT’S why masks work, and it has been communicated endlessly for more than a year.
     
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    You are.
     
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    Yeah, that's funny, but no.
     
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    Or just live life.
     
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    Ok. The guideline have been 6 ft apart without masks is OK. The guidance the schools received said wear masks when you can't maintain 6ft distancing. Yall on the left can't make up your mind. Faucci told the truth the first time when he said masks were not effective.
    Kinda funny how states without mask mandates fared Covid much better than the leftist cesspools that had mask mandates.
     
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    Shhhh you are talking about actual science again....
     
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    Please document this claim.

    When was this guidance given? Also, this is guidance for children/teens who were believed to be at much less risk of COVID-19.

    So this is a political issue to you? It's not to me. That's probably why you can't think straight about it.

    He told the truth in regard to masks below N95 being worn as a SELF-protective measure. It was based on our understanding at the time. Science is like that. Scientists have the ability to change their minds as the evidence changes. Politically-driven people often have contempt for evidence.

    And politics again, with a heavy dose of contempt. When you have contempt for other people, you are in sin (according to Jesus - Matthew 5:21-22), and cannot think clearly and truthfully about them.

    You didn't present any evidence for your assertion, but I'm guessing that your claim is based on the fact that metropolitan areas had higher raw numbers of sickness than rural levels. That simply has to do with more people living in those areas. Percentage-wise, a number of places without mask mandates had a worse time.
     
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    No, you and Reynolds are simply spreading misinformation again. But you like it — it’s better than reality.
     
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    I watched it.
     
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    Did you understand it?
     
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    Coronavirus Disease 2019

    6 ft without masks. It's in there.
     
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    Yep.
    The purpose is to discredit the clown Faucci. Have you looked at how many 180s he does? He is a joke. He drifts whichever way Nancy blows.
     
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    No. You are just repeating junk you hear. Typical Democrat tactic of repeat a lie until it becomes true.
    Your sources are not voting science. They simply stating their opinions as fact.
     
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    No, that would be you sir.
     
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