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Meals on Wheels Seniors Respond to Trump: 'Cut Something Else'

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    "There's gotta be a lot of things that could be cut, instead of making it rip-off the old people, you know?"

    Harold Ray is 79. He's lived alone since his wife went into a nursing home about a year ago, and he doesn't get to see her often. "I don't get out too much, really. And when I do go I have to go in a wheelchair or a walker. That's no good, you know," Rays says.

    "It's been quite a while. We've been married 57 years, so you know what kind of impact that's had on me," he says, and laughs. "She always did my cooking and the house cleaning."

    The reason his wife did most of the housework is because Ray has a rare, incurable disease eating away at many of his nerves. "I could cook a meal, but I'm crippled in my hands and my feet and legs, so I have problems – I have problems opening a can of food and stuff like that," he says.

    The disease is called Charcot-Marie-Tooth, and it's hereditary. "My mother had [it], and I got it, and I got a younger brother, it's working on him now. And I've got a couple older brothers that's already in wheelchairs," Ray says.

    About a month-and-a-half ago, Ray started getting meals delivered to his home in Ypsilanti, Michigan. "They bring me a hot one for lunch and a cold one for later on in the afternoon and all the goodies that goes with it," he says. "It's been great."

    When Rolling Stone reached Ray by phone on Friday, he hadn't yet heard about President Trump's proposed elimination of Community Development Block grants, which fund Meals on Wheels programs around the country, among other things.

    "I don't listen too much to what he says, be honest with you," Ray says. Trump had been in Ypsilanti the day before for a meeting with auto executives.

    Ray didn't go to see him, but he says if he had the chance to talk to the president, or his budget director Mick Mulvaney, "I'd tell 'em, 'Cut something else.' I mean, there's gotta be a lot of things that could be cut, instead of making it rip-off the old people, you know?"

    Ray is one of the 2.4 million seniors served by the program, which delivers meals to the sick and homebound around the country.

    Sixty-five-year-old Jane Philo-Bisaccia, also from Ypsilanti, is another. Her doctor arranged for her to start receiving meals when she left the hospital following a hip surgery nine months ago. It's a good thing, too, because a few months later she slipped and dislocated that hip. Four months after that, she had another fall, shattering the bone above her knee. "I've been pretty housebound," she says.

    She gets two meals a day through Meals on Wheels. "At first I was just getting the one meal a day, and then one of their delivery people said, 'Is that enough for you?' I said, 'Well, you know, I don't want to be greedy!' She says, 'Don't think of it that way! It's there for you to use. It's set up for that purpose.'"

    Roughly a third of the Meals on Wheels budget, or $517.3 million, is derived from federal funding. Outlining the cuts on Thursday, Mulvaney said the program was "just not showing any results."


    Meals on Wheels Seniors Respond to Trump: 'Cut Something Else'
     
  2. annsni

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    1/3 of the program's funding comes from federal sources - but only 3% is in discussion in this budget. Hardly what would make seniors starve.
     
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    Why cut it at all if it is such a little amount?

    Are you in for or against helping the elderly who are in need?
     
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    Because it is being inefficiently used and they are looking to make the funding more local. They will get their money but in a different way.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Where is your proof the money is being used inefficiently? Do you feel that the Pentagon is using money efficiently?

    Do you know of any place Jesus said, "Let them go hungry if feeding them is not efficient?"
     
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    There are a lot of social welfare programs and policies that suck up a lot more money than Meals on Wheels. The prison industry being the largest offender. I don't understand the urgency to fix something that even the Republicans are admitting is not a substantial amount while continuing to embrace and expand such an money sinkhole such as the federal prison system.
     
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    More hysterics?! Like Chicken Penny, when it comes to Trump, you see the sky as crashing to earth! What a sad way to live, ctb! You are in my prayers to be healed of trumpitis!
     
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    From the Forbes link:

    "The relevant Department of Housing and Urban Development section of the budget contains the following language:

    Eliminates funding for the Community Development Block Grant program, a savings of $3 billion from the 2017 annualized CR level. The Federal Government has spent over $150 billion on this block grant since its inception in 1974, but the program is not well-targeted to the poorest populations and has not demonstrated results. The Budget devolves community and economic development activities to the State and local level, and redirects Federal resources to other activities."
     
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    I am for helping those in need (not just the elderly) by assisting as necessary.
    To clarity- I am against assisting the greedy-
    I am able to assist the needy by individual contributions
    and thur religious/social organizations.

    It is NOT the job of the federal govt to provide social programs
    States/Commonwealths is a different story.
     
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    Another manufactured non issue.
     
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    What a shame, and what a waste of cyber space. This guys hate for Trump, is a microcasm of the lefts hatred for the man who would whip Hillary. Instead of the hatred dying out, these haters are feeding off each others hate. As believers, those who harbor so much hate, will have some 'splain' to do when standing before God. After all, if they believed Obama was put in the office by God and that we needed to give him the respect due that office, then they are showing a hypocritical side by denying Trump was put there by God!?

    Haters will truly hate! And hate will surely eat away at their overall health!
     
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    Are you talking about Trump's win? He got less than 46% of the vote and lost the overall vote by 3 million votes. He did win due to the electoral college but that is hardly whipping Clinton.
     
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    You didn't mind it so much when Obama cut medicare by $500 billion to pay for obamacare.

    More hypocrisy.
     
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    "Roughly a third of the Meals on Wheels budget, or $517.3 million, is derived from federal funding. Outlining the cuts on Thursday, Mulvaney said the program was "just not showing any results."

    A big lie wrapped around a kernal of the truth. Favorite tactic of the left.
     
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    Yet it isn't 1/3 of the funding that is at risk here. It is 3%.
     
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    Is it acceptable to you that 3% of the elderly, the poor, kids go hungry because funds were cut?

    What percent of hunger among those groups is acceptable to you?
     
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    Yet the result of this budget cut - if it goes through - does not mean that 3% of the MOW budget is cut. Instead, this money will be provided in a different, more efficient way. So no, 3% of the elderly will not go hungry.
     
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    Kids????? Meals on Wheels????

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    She carried the three million from California, and as a Californian, I get the right to say that the three million who voted for her are far left coast snowflake, kooks! This state is filled with entitled crybabies. So, take away the overall.Cali vote, and Trump wins hands down.

    Hate to burst your bubble, but Cali is the liberalist state in the union.
     
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