Tell me about the Greek.
meaning of Lord?
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by nodak, Dec 4, 2011.
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IF we fail to keep abiding, fail to allow the HS to empower us, drop back to living in our own flesh fro God, that results in deeds ofthe flesh, and as such...
The Lord will rebuke us/chaistise us until we go back to abiding in Christ...
Confession is given to us in order to be back into fellowship with the father, than can grow forward in abiding in Christ! -
None of that is in 1 John, but again tell me about the Greek. -
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That is broken fellowship. There are many others just like it, 1John 2:2, notwithstanding. 1John 1:9, he didn't write for the good of his health, it had purpose to it. Fellowship was broken. The only way fellowship could be restored was if the believer confessed his sin, and then Jesus Christ would be faithful and just to forgive us our sin. It is obvious that fellowship had been broken.
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: (1 John 1:6)
--Hank already demonstrated to you that there are some dark times in a believer's life. If we deny that, we deny Christ. I believe the Bible was teaching some equivalent truth here.
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (1 John 1:8)
--You cannot deny that you have not sinned. Sin is darkness, not light.
Fellowship is broken the minute is broken, and it is not restored until the sin is confessed. How long can a believer walk with unconfessed sin? A long time for many. How long can you watch a TV program that is not particularly edifying before you find the moral fortitude to go and turn it off; to tell yourself that you are not going to watch that garbage any more.
I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me. (Psalms 101:3)
Continue with 1John 1
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. (1 John 1:7)
--This is what we strive to do--walk in the light. If we do we have fellowship with each other, and we have fellowship with God, though it doesn't say that in this verse. Sin separates us from God. The blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin. It is the basis for our fellowship.
Therefore, on the basis of the blood of Christ, I am able to approach our Great High Priest, go right before His Throne, and confess my sin that my fellowship might be restored. -
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And what did David due to get it fully back again? -
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he started out Chapter one stating that he wrote this so that his "little children" could keep and enjoy fellowship with the father thru jesus Christ...
Where in EITHER Greek/hebrew texts did Apostle John changed from adressing the saved to the lost? -
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Before the discussion goes further, I suppose that the OP should figure out what John means when he uses the word "sin" in his first epistle. In this particular case, John has a particular concept in mind for his use of the word, and every other thing he says in that epistle wraps around that same concept.
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John started addressing the Christians in church, when did he switch in the passage to addressing the Gnostics in their midst? -
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He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. -
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The problem you are having is that you believe a Christian can backslide into sinning which the bible denies can happen. That person never had fellowship to start with, but because of a false profession, cleaning up their own life on the outside to some degree, and being surrounded by real Christians, they thought they had fellowship although all they had was a shadow of the reality. When this person who is really lost departs back into their sinning (2 Peter 2:22) they are left with the reality of what they are, lost with no fellowship, but because they have been programed into thinking they are saved because of false teachings of backsliding they think they just lost fellowship which they never had.
NO true believer can lose fellowship.
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