And, if I may be so bold, William, Marcia asked a question in regard to the NASV vs. the ESV. It was not an invitation for KJVO folks to butt in with a blanket condemnation of MVs. </font>[/QUOTE]Your right I never read either one so I really dont have a "POINT" do I. BUT you DO. Why Do we need SO MANY BIBLES? No wonder the World is in such a dissaray we have let the world tell the church what to do and say, and compramised, and sold our birthright for a pot of porrage!
[ May 07, 2006, 12:50 AM: Message edited by: Phillip ]
NAS(95) or ESV?
Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Marcia, May 5, 2006.
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And we are again off topic — as expected.
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I haven't made any allegations about the KJV. My point is that this thread is supposed to be about an entirely different topic, not an excuse for you to bash other versions.
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I have shown no disrespect toward the KJB. Period. If you keep repeating that, you will be lying.
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Any more posts regarding discussions other than the subject matter of this thread will either be edited or the thread will be immediately closed.
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Marcia,
I was an ardent KJV man for many years but the more I studied the history of the KJV and the underlying Greek text and the fact it is an old translation AND many words have changed meaning, I soon realized that the KJV is a great translation, but it is simply out-dated.
Since the KJV translation THOUSANDS of additional texts have been discovered and diligently compared allowing modern translators a "better, cleaner and more accurate" underlying text than the KJV.
Those texts are the basis for BEST word-for-word translations today: the ESV, NASB, HCSB and the LITV. These are the best modern word-forword translations using MODERN English and meanings.
I compared the ESV and the NASB and personally I chose the Reformers ESV Study Bible. I just like how the ESV reads and the study helps are great.
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We have a long-standing BB policy that if a post is made to a select group (pastors, males only, etc), then we abide by that. All other posts that are unrelated and people just unable to keep their mouths shut are deleted.
Know you are new enough that this policy might not be well known to you.
BTW, I have an ESV for personal study, but don't care for the NASB. I used the 1901 ASV (on which the NASB is based) extensively as it surpasses any English translation in translation of the Greek. -
We have a long-standing BB policy that if a post is made to a select group (pastors, males only, etc), then we abide by that. All other posts that are unrelated and people just unable to keep their mouths shut are deleted.
Know you are new enough that this policy might not be well known to you.
BTW, I have an ESV for personal study, but don't care for the NASB. I used the 1901 ASV (on which the NASB is based) extensively as it surpasses any English translation in translation of the Greek. </font>[/QUOTE]thank you for your comment and I will try not to Speak my mind concerning other versions although like isaid I have never read neither and probably will never wever read them unless i was on the remotest island deserted ,stranded with only that to read! thanx and god bless! P.S. I,m not impresed by what other people read, for its not what we say but what we do; I should practice what I preach the same goes for everybody else! -
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Marcia, in case you're interested, here's a page that contains a number of links to articles, pro and con, on the ESV:
ESV LINKS
The NASB has some advantages, some of them related to its maturity as a translation. The 1995 revision reflected decades of thought on the original, and there is a huge body of work (commentaries, etc.) available using the NASB.
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I am really tired of the putdowns on the BB when it somes to Calvinist-nonCalvinist views.
It has nothing to do with "Calvinist" vs. "non-Calvinist." Scofield was a Congregationalist, after all, and other prominent Dispensationalists, such as Chafer and Ryrie, were/are moderate Calvinists.
I just don't have a terribly high opinion of Scofield's notes, and I regard their inclusion as a waste of a perfectly good ESV - or NASB, for that matter, although I'm not sure if I've ever seen a Scofield edition. -
I have both and enjoy them both.
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rsr, thanks for your comments and links -- also thanks, Dr. Bob and mcdirector and everyone else who responded politely. This has been very helpful.
Ransom, sorry if I jumped the gun and misunderstood your post!
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Why do you dislike Scofield other than him being Dispensational and his gap theory on Gen. 1 and 2 (which I don't like at all, either, assuming you don't)?
Not "other than" his Dispensationalism, but because of it. Scofield's reference Bible carried so much authority in the early part of the 20th century that his theology, in the main, has been taken for granted amongst Evangelicals since. I don't regard the effect on theological studies very highly. Anyway, this is off-topic.
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