metaphor
■ noun
a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable.
▶ a thing regarded as symbolic of something else.
Strawman. I never said his flesh was a symbol. What I am saying is not even close to Docetism.
metaphor
■ noun a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable.
▶ a thing regarded as symbolic of something else.
We understand what was given unto us through the ages which is the "Real Presence",
not some silly grape juice and crackers. This is the understanding of those who came before us - the Apostles, the Early Church Fathers, theologians, the Bishops, Martin Luther - everyone right up to a renegade named Zwingli. Even when the great schism occurred between the East and West in the 11th century the Eastern Church never abandoned this truth.
So congratulations, you follow the lead of one man (Zwingli) and reject all the rest of Christendom, so how does it feel to be the odd man out?
That's right! Jesus said it, the Apostles believed it, the Scriptures record it and the Church teaches it. End of story! You would think that those who claim to love Jesus so much would accept this and flock to Him as He exists in the Holy Eucharist. This is plain for all to see, the highlight of Baptist worship is the pulpit while the highlight of the
Catholic worship is the true communion with Him.
metaphor
■ noun a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to something to which it is not literally applicable.
▶ a thing regarded as symbolic of something else.
The Scriptures proves it, the historical record of 99% acceptance by all of Christendom through the ages proves it. I can't help it if you are stuck on stupid.
No, you are going with one man
Zwingli and you just err in your interpretation of what they believed.
Jesus own words were easily understood as a metaphor.
The Scriptures do not prove it. I can't help it if Catholics can't understand symbolism.
It is convenient that:
I am the door - Not literal
I am the vine - Not literal
I am the shepherd of the sheep - Not literal
I am the bread - ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS IS LITERAL!
This makes NO sense. Not logical sense, not textual sense, not scientific sense, not theological sense.
Paul also said in that same chapter that this is a remembrance. Paul rightly understood the bread and wine as symbols of what Christ's Body and Blood accomplished for us. So if you are taking that symbol and you are not right with God, you are sinning against the already sacrificed body and blood of Christ. This in no way supports your position.
“I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” - John 6:51
---> What does Christ say the bread that He gives is?
I have always said Protestantism is merely a hodge-podge of previously condemned heresies.
That you admit to believing Christ's flesh was merely symbolic is an astonishing admission and only confirms my assertion.
Thank you for your honesty.
Docetism is alive and well...at least here in this forum.
STRAWMAN again. You are flat out lying about what I have or have not said. Show me where I said Christ's flesh is merely symbolic? You are bearing false witness and need to repent. I have said NO such thing and this is not Docetism.
And now the games and the "You're a liar schtick" begins...
Either there are two davidtaylorjr's posting here or your account has been hacked as the person posting as you answered, B ("No, it is just a symbol") to my question as to whether Christ's flesh was actual flesh.
Christ explicitly states the bread IS His actual flesh...
---> “I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” - John 6:51
Not if taken in the way Catholics see it. Here David, you are fighting an up hill battle. Why fight them? The only one with the power to alter perceptions is the HS ( let him do His job ).