Once again, our POTUS shows why he should be (but won't be) impeached for crimes against the nation by making it no longer part of the swearing in ceremony for new citizens to swear to defend this nation in time of war.
IMHO, this plays directly into the mindset of Muslims, who would object to fighting other Muslims in a war against a radical Islamic nation or group.
Tell me ... just what is this country becoming? Do you think our founding fathers would have stood for such nonsense?
Obama: New Citizens may decline to pledge allegiance!
Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Jul 23, 2015.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Baptist Believer Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
The current oath has been in place since 1950 and there has always been a religious exemption for those who a pacifists and they must provide evidence that they belong to a religious group that advocates pacifism.
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...e-up-arms-and-defend-the-u.s./article/2568704
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...-united-states-from-citizenship-oath-n2028889
I guess you need to check your sources brother!??? :smilewinkgrin: Have a good day! :flower: -
Baptist Believer Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
For those reading along, the updated policy can be found here. The Washington Examiner link previously provided does not work.
This change is the real news here. It is a positive story, not a negative story... at least for Baptists.
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"It should be noted the Islamic terrorist Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez, who killed four Marines and a Navy sailor in Chattanooga last week, was a naturalized citizen."
I disagree with changing the oath, but it would not make a difference (and the article us using the incident in Chattanooga for its own agenda...I'm sure Abdulazeez, having already been naturalized, took the old pledge). -
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Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Oaths are important even if some do not keep them.
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The oath does not provide safety, but rather, it provides expectations and inspiration for people of good character. -
Revmitchell Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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The reason I brought it up was the article linked the pledge with the terrorist (it is implied, but there is no other reason to mention Chattanooga but to emotionalize the action). The article was flawed - it should have stayed on topic.
I absolutely agree with you, Rev, that the pledge to defend the US in times of war (directly or in supportive positions) should remain as it should be implied as a responsibility of every citizen. I do not know why we view others as having some sort of a right to become citizens. -
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Absolutely. [emoji106]
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righteousdude2 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Not an excuse, but I still didn't know how to copy and paste from the Nook I use. However, after your comments, I went to Nook and learned how it was done, and it was easier than I expected, so I will no longer just post, but I can now copy my source and paste it too!
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InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
I'm gone for two days yet the inaccurate posts continue.
1. The new citizens do not "pledge allegiance to the flag". So they do not "decline to pledge allegiance" as the title of the OP states.
2. They still have to say the Oath of Allegiance, but they may omit one clause regarding being willing to go to war or serving in the Armed Forces, citing religious reasons.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Up...citizens-swear-a-different-Oath-of-Allegiance
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You are surprised the inaccuracies didn't stop with your absence? [emoji3]
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