Obama to Lift Ban on Overseas Abortion Funding

[LadyEagle]

If you aren't then you obvously haven't been as pro-life as you claim to have been.

You can't "claim" to be pro-life and vote for Obama when it has been well documented his position on abortion and even infanticide. I never did believe you were as pro-life as you have claimed to be. No matter how you fluster and try to spin, you cannot justify your vote for an infant murderer. For a Christian, pro-life should be the top priority on which candidate to vote for. If we as a nation get it right when it comes to lives of defenseless innocents, God will take care of the economics. Until CHRISTIANS humble themselves and pray and seek God's face, He will not heal our land. CHRISTIANS that support pro-death candidates like Obama are part of the problem. CHRISTIANS should be part of the solution. :tear:

And I find it repulsive when Christians rejoice and are so ecstatic that their pro-death candidate won the election. More baby murders are on the way.

I just talked to a fellow Wednesday night who used to work for a medical equipment company. He was called to a Planned Parenthood office to fix a broken table several years ago. He said there was a long metal pan in the room about 5-6 inches deep filled with aborted babies of all stages of development. It sickened him. He refused to ever go back and do business with PP. I told him I had seen many pictures on the Internet, but cannot imagine the horror of seeing all those dead babies piled on top of each other, some in pieces, that had been brutally ripped from the womb, there in person, up close.

And you are PROUD and ecstatic that this baby murderer won the election? You defend your vote? There is no defense, IMHO. :tear: :tear:

And now you are considering "pondering" to see if you should switch to pro-choice? You have never fooled me, Ken.

Brother Curtis is right, you were better off sticking with Ron Paul.

 

[KenH]

So who are the most?

I withdraw the remark.

 

[KenH]

And now you are considering "pondering" to see if you should swith to pro-choice?

Not really. I was pulling Matt's leg. And I apologize for doing so.

 

[LadyEagle]

Not really. I was pulling Matt's leg.

So, then, apparently you belive abortion is something to jest and poke fun about? I find nothing funny about killing babies.

 

[KenH]

when I said you were deceived you called it a personal attack.

I withdraw the remark.

 

[matt wade]

As I said, I cannot come up with an answer to your question and I tip over my king(as is done in chess) and concede the the argument to you.

Well, thanks for that (I think) .

 

[KenH]

I find nothing funny about killing babies.

Neither do I. I apologize.

 

[windcatcher]

We have a consensus in society to now allow the murder of teenagers. Unforunately, we don't have that on the abortion issue.
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Huh???? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is new to me!

Ken, I sincerely believe you are delusional!
That 'ancient' work called the Bible, recognized that syndrom, a person held by a strong delusion! But most people don't go to the Word of God to depend upon facts and science and studies of human behavior: Many are more persuaded by humanist, most of them consciously anti-God, and impressed by the science behind studies like psychology which accepts the strength of delusions. A delusional man can not be persuaded by logic or fact: One might get him to agree on everything one can imagine to knock down the delusion, but he will never conclude that his delusion is false because it escapes his logic..... which he lacks in that instance. Ken, you have a stubborn spiritual wall which you are not aware of, and which no one can convince you that it exists, and no man has the power to take it down. You were not aware when you were building it, and as long as you are unwilling to exam yourself, it cannot be broken down: It will take the Holy Spirit to help you, but this is by your invitation only.

It would be difficult for anyone to value life inside the womb or outside the womb more than I do.

Wrong! If you valued life inside the womb as much as many do who post on this board, you would have found an alternative to cast your vote... or refused to vote. You take a defensive and unrepentant arrogance every time this issue is brought up: What are such people pretending to be? They want it both ways! Apparently it is important to them to have the approval of some and they want to be credited with a certain reputation and stand ....as in being anti-abortion.... but their continued need for posturing and defensiveness betrays the truth beneath the surface and that is.... they had a pretense of 'values' but it was not nearly as important as the other values which, as a whole, contradict and betrayed those which they want to 'image' as for themselves.

I'm sorry..... but I have one view of you which I don't like admitting to, and that is a person sitting on a fence who leans this way when it suits him and that way when the other side seems sweeter. He has no faith to keep his conscience clean and depend on God who can even take a donkey and make him speak words of wisdom and life; for if he did, and if he truely was God-led to follow a path which brethern find strange, he would leave the defense to God.

You equate those who voted for Bush were guilty: But it is not the same: If Bush represents himself to be a fiscally conservative, God fearing, pro-life candidate...... and that's what people vote for.... but Bush turns out to be different, then he is responsible for his own misrepresentation and the voters are not quilty: But Obama clearly presented his intentions...... and he was very thurough in scope so there could be no mistaking his stand.... Voters who chose him and had knowledge of where he stood (And KenH..... you did, cause you openly debated on these forums), are responsible for their choices: If any should now regret their vote, then they should repent. Otherwise, defending their position against abortion but their vote for a candidate who is so strong an advocate on this and other abominable indignities..... is just posturing and trying to impress the unimpressionable!

 

[windcatcher]

Originally Posted by KenH
We have a consensus in society to now allow the murder of teenagers. Unforunately, we don't have that on the abortion issue.
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Okay spelling and meaning corrected and improved since this quote.


Wow! Was the board ever busy while I was prayerfully adding my post.....

KenH.... your more recent post give me hope for you!

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Ken took a beating this morning. But he'll be back. He always comes back.

He's a good man.

 

[Marcia]

Hey, Pastor Larry, I have absolutely no desire to change any position just so I can agree with you.

Personally, I wear as a symbolic badge of honor disagreeing with right-wingers whose foreign and economic policies for the past eight years have brought such shame and reproach on the good name of the United States of America and brought economic disaster on our nation.

I don't like the term "right-wingers." What does it mean?

I am against abortion but for gun control.

I did not vote for Bush (or any Democrat either).

I am vegetarian.

I use incense to give fragrance to my apt.

I dress rather bohemian, imo.

I am a missionary and a conservative Christian in beliefs.

So, am I a right-winger?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I shop & eat only in local stores.
I don't have an air conditioner, and it gets 110 degrees in the summer very often.
I have a non-motored push mower.
I am against the wars.
I am against the fascist bailout.
I am for increased state-funded scholarships for under privileged, well performing school students. Even home-schooled children should qualify.
I am for short term government assistance, not welfare for 6 generations.

What do they do with Christians & gays after socialist gov't takeovers ? I thought left-wingers were for human rights ?

 

[Magnetic Poles]

So you claim to be a prophet?

Some right-wingers are getting more and more ridiculous in their comments.

Yep...reminds me of the inane comments by Robertson and Falwell blaming everyone they didn't like for 9/11.

 

[LadyEagle]

Well, the evil man signed the Evil Executive Order today in spite of a letter sent earlier this month signed by 77 members of Congress:

Here is the letter:

http://www.lifenews.com/RetainMexicoCityPolicyLettertoPresident-ElectObama.pdf

This man is evil and has proven that once again. No one on here can paint his action as anything but evil in this matter. :tear: There is no excuse. America got what they voted for.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Everytime a party change occurs in Washington since Reagan, this policy has flipped with the party.

 

[Andy T.]

As I said, I cannot come up with an answer to your question and I tip over my king(as is done in chess) and concede the the argument to you.

And the reason you can't, is that Matt has successfully shown than you are a fraud when it comes to your lip-service on being against abortion. A complete fraud.

 

[Andy T.]

Obama lied. Obama is a liar. He said that he wanted to reduce the number of abortions. It is without a doubt that this executive order will increase abortions. Obama lied, people died.

 

[LadyEagle]

Everytime a party change occurs in Washington since Reagan, this policy has flipped with the party.

You're right. The Democrats want to fund overseas abortions and Republicans do not.

Thus, Clinton reversed Reagan to fund overseas abortion.

Bush reversed Clinton to NOT fund overseas abortion.

Now Obama has reversed it to fund overseas abortion. But this is the fellow who voted for infanticide, too.

And who says the Democrats are not the party of death? Here is the proof in this Executive Order. He is an evil man who has already done the most evil of deeds.

"Deliver us from evil." :tear:

 

[KenH]

I don't like the term "right-wingers." What does it mean?

A right-winger is one who is very conservative on most political issues across the board.

A left-winger is one who is very liberal on most political issues across the board.

 

[tinytim]

Everytime a party change occurs in Washington since Reagan, this policy has flipped with the party.

Right, which is why democrats are the party of death...