Does he require your help? If I call you a Calvi, are you getting upset? so if I use Fundi, why should he care?
Objections to the Teetotalism view on Alcohol
Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by evangelist6589, Aug 25, 2015.
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Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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SovereignGrace Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
In this day and time of 'John Q. Public' watching our every move, why take a chance at destroting one's witness by imbibbing in public?
I am NOT in the teetotaller camp, but one needs to do their drinking alcohol in the comfort and safety of their home. -
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But back to the subject at hand. Let me 1st preface that I have been around Alcoholics all my life. My Grandfather & I believe my father were but my father at least tried to control himself. Later my brother gravitated to it & I believe wasted many years of his life inebriated. My MIL, SIL & my wife are all alcoholics. I have been to countless AA Meetings, a few ALNON meetings (yuk) & been to court standing next to the alcoholic in support (moral & financial). I have been to hospitals where the alcoholic is jaundice, liver enlarged & obviously ready to drop dead, and here is what they all tell you....."you gotta believe me, I am NOT an alcoholic!" The following week you comeback & you find that that guy is dead & there is another yellow colored drunk telling you the same thing......"you gotta believe me, I am NOT an alcoholic! Just pathetic!!!
So from my prospective, the first path to clarity is not to placate & deny that the alcoholic has a problem, but rather to lay it out, to admit the inability to handle the sauce & build a new life around abstinence. And that takes some clarity of mind & determination of heart & will to not drink. And real world, people can & will drink around them. I didn't when they were first struggling but later on it was they (MIL, SIL, Wife & Brother) that told me that it is just ridiculous for me to abstain when it isn't my problem. My wife being the strictest task master when it comes to food (I'm a diabetic & she isn't)....so she brings in cookies, candy, cake, sticky rolls etc on a weekly basis. Her agruement is that I MUST develop the strength to avoid what can kill me as she had to develop the strength to avoid what could kill her....she sees no difference. -
InTheLight Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
(BTW, I don't drink.) -
Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
And now its merely dust in the wind---evidenced by the way people, dress, talk & generally conduct themselves. Sad, very sad.:tear: -
Baptist Believer Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
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Baptist Believer Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Did Jesus worry about His reputation? His disciples should model Jesus in that regard. -
evangelist6589 Well-Known MemberSite Supporter
Watch your language -
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