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I am sure he doesn't, but you don't warn RW about the evils of RW, that wouldn't help any.
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Then do it or stop talking.
You're not doing anything to further your beliefs or views.
You're blowing smoke.
Provide your proof or close your mouth, please.
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annsni said:
If you couldn't see the video, then you cannot comment on it. You slander someone without even seeing it - and a fellow believer at that.
You'll have to answer for that, you know.
I'm sure that Rick Warren has been responsible for more people coming to the Lord than you have. Yet you continue to mock him without evidence.
Very sad.
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Shotgun's hatred (yes, hatred) of RW prevents him from behaving ethically in this matter.
He'd rather slander and get his jollies, than be accurate in his comments.
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Being a little overly sensitive aren't you.
Tell me why RW has such a large following, tell me what makes him "America's Pastor", tell me why so many stand up for a man who stands with people who stand in opposition to Christ, ie. his backing of Barack.
Need I say more?
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I don't hate anyone, that would be a mistake
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Ah, I see.
You have no evidence to support your claims, so you're going to attack the one's who are asking for it.
Classic response.
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please read the rest of the post, thanks
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ShotGunWillie said:
Being a little overly sensitive aren't you.
Tell me why RW has such a large following , tell me what makes him "America's Pastor", tell me why so many stand up for a man who stands with people who stand in opposition to Christ, ie. his backing of Barack. Need I say more?
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God is blessing him!
Jealous aren't we?
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um, no, that would be a sin.
Kind of like slander.
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That's what I don't understand, how people confuse the work of a man for a One World Religion and the work of God.
How is that possible?
Satan blesses people too.....
There is really nothing to be jealous of, what does he have that I want.
Nothing.
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I like how this usually ends up, I am not saying to hate someone is a mistake.
I am saying that I don't hate anyone, your accusation of that was a mistake.
Please tell me what slanderous comments I have made that are not easily proviable by the mans own words, written or spoken, or by his actions.
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If I may offer some sort of mediating...I think the point is that you are SAYING that things are provable by his words/actions......but aren't actually explaining what those words/actions are.
I think what you would probably say is proof would be debatable....which is the point here. So....let's have it, so we can debate it.
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No I don't think so.
Tell me why RW has such a large following, tell me what makes him "America's Pastor", tell me why so many stand up for a man who stands with people who stand in opposition to Christ, ie. his backing of Barack.
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I don't have to defend those things, as I never made those assertions to begin with. Rick Warren is not my pastor, and I only have a passing knowledge of his viewpoint on some issues. What I've seen and read, I agree with for the most part, but I certainly woudn't defend him without knowing what I was talking about. There those on this board, it seems, that are willing to make stupid, unfounded statements about Mr. Warren without knowing what they're talking about, however. If the shoe fits...
Need I say more?
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Yeah, actually the proof we asked for would be great. Thanks.
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If I am not mistaken I have already pointed out his close association with Barack Obama.
Who, by all accounts is an evil man.
So will America's Pastor have a back bone and stand up for the cause of Christ, no, he will submit to the world and embrace Obama for who he is and what he believes.
You are known by the company you keep.
When his ministry began, perhaps he had the right idea
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There you go. Show me one proof that Rick Warren is for a "One World Religion".
You can't find it. That is slander.
Donna said "It's a cut and paste, means it's fake" and you said "Which describes RW" - so you're calling him a fake - which is slander.
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I'm picturing the madman John Hagee as I'm reading this.
You really don't think people take you seriously when you ramble of harsh accusations like this, do you?
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ShotGunWillie said:
If I am not mistaken I have already pointed out his close association with Barack Obama.
Who, by all accounts is an evil man.
So will America's Pastor have a back bone and stand up for the cause of Christ, no, he will submit to the world and embrace Obama for who he is and what he believes.
You are known by the company you keep.
When his ministry began, perhaps he had the right idea
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You have "pointed out his close association with Barack Obama" but does that mean he endorses him?
Or is he ministering to him - trying to bring him to the Lord?
Hey - I closely associate with unbelievers - it doesn't mean I'm an unbeliever.
It means that I'm ministering to them and hoping to lead them to the Lord through my contact with them.
Do you associate with anyone who is not saved?
If not, then you might want to see what Jesus said about that.
How are we to show the Lord to them if we aren't around them?
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ShotGunWillie said:
That's what I don't understand, how people confuse the work of a man for a One World Religion and the work of God. How is that possible?
Satan blesses people too.....
There is really nothing to be jealous of, what does he have that I want. Nothing.
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You are starting to sound a lot like the people who were complaining about the work Jesus was doing...
They were attributing it to Satan...
Jesus called it Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost...
Another time the disciples wanted to stop someone for working miracles in Jesus' name, and Jesus said not to...
You are treading dangerous ground when you make accusations that RW is doing Satan's work....
Thousands have been saved through him... Satan must really be proud!....
NOT!!
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annsni said:
You have "pointed out his close association with Barack Obama" but does that mean he endorses him? Or is he ministering to him - trying to bring him to the Lord? Hey - I closely associate with unbelievers - it doesn't mean I'm an unbeliever. It means that I'm ministering to them and hoping to lead them to the Lord through my contact with them. Do you associate with anyone who is not saved? If not, then you might want to see what Jesus said about that. How are we to show the Lord to them if we aren't around them?
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He is probably refering to the time RW let B.O. speak at one of his PEACE conferences on how to reach out to the poor.
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ShotGunWillie said:
If I am not mistaken I have already pointed out his close association with Barack Obama.
Who, by all accounts is an evil man.
So will America's Pastor have a back bone and stand up for the cause of Christ, no, he will submit to the world and embrace Obama for who he is and what he believes.
You are known by the company you keep .
When his ministry began, perhaps he had the right idea
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I know absolutely nothing about Rick Warren, but the above highlighted comment, which I bolded, struck me:
Luk 7:36 Now one of the Pharisees asked Jesus to have dinner with him, so he went into the Pharisee's house and took his place at the table.
Luk 7:37
Then when a woman of that town, who was a sinner, learned that Jesus was dining at the Pharisee's house, she brought an alabaster jar of perfumed oil.
Luk 7:38
As she stood behind him at his feet, weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears. She wiped them with her hair, kissed them,7 and anointed them with the perfumed oil.
Luk 7:39
Now when the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, "If this man were a prophet, he would know who and what kind of woman this is who is touching him, that she is a sinner."
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