Think that one mut control our lus by submitting to the Spirit/yeildng to Him, thinking on scripture also, and yor friend seemst o bin rebellion against God now!
On Lust and Marriage
Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Aaron, Nov 15, 2016.
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Of course, a lot depends on your spouse.
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If someone with same-sex attraction gets married, that desire is not going to go away like magic. It just adds to the complicated situation. -
It's about loving your wife, raising children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, and working together with singleminded purpose to promote the Kingdom of Heaven.
Yeah, I agree one has to be a Christian. Modern marriages are dismal no matter how one rolls. -
HankD -
There's no other kind of marriage.
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The whole "Better to marry than to burn" idea is about lust in the first place, so I think it's fair to make that a focal point.
What I am trying to discourage is having a man with same sex attractions marry a woman in the hopes that this will make some sort of difference.
Why is it different than opposite-gender attraction? Well, if one assumes that the person is attracted to both sexes, perhaps the risk is lower, but if the person is primarily (or exclusively) attracted to the same sex, then that's just asking for trouble. Marriage is sufficiently difficult on its own; the extra factor of trying to "fake it 'till you make it" makes matters exponentially worse. One would assume that a straight man would not choose to marry a woman he finds unattractive in most cases, and I think that's a good general rule. -
1 John 5
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
Any child of God who has allowed a problem similar to the one presented in the o/p develop in their heart and mind needs to feed their faith and mortify their flesh.
The source of the problem (which is thoughts of porneia and aselgeia) is the heart itself.
Mark 7
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness.
23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.
These kinds of evil thoughts (often referred to as "fantasies" by the world) must be taken captive and nipped in the bud.
2 Corinthians 10
4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
I don't follow after the doctrine of Lordship salvation but LORDship sanctification is indeed God's expectation.
NOW, TODAY is the day to yield to Jesus Christ as LORD.
Romans 12
1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Then we have this amazing promise:
Revelation 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
Aaron, FWIW and if you wish, let your friend (acquaintance) know that he is on my daily prayer list.
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I'm sorry, I should have been more clear.
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One who is full loathes honey from the comb, but to the hungry even what is bitter tastes sweet.
Do we say the glutton has no place at the table? Why then do we say one who has same-gender attractions is disqualified from marriage? (A real marriage. A union between one man and one woman.) -
Besides, I'm not saying someone who has same sex attractions can't be married. I'm saying that marriage won't turn the person straight. If a person has attractions to both sexes, perhaps marriage is an option. If not attracted to the opposite sex, though, one shouldn't get married, period. That's just a disaster waiting to happen and will almost always end up with a painful divorce. -
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They're not. We talk that way because of the psychobabble of the last century. We don't get any of these ideas from the Scriptures. -
The Bible doesn't address same sex attraction, only the actions that emerge. "Identity" terms take it one step deeper into the underlying cause. It's extra-biblical, sure, but it's not unbiblical, IMO. -
There's more to say, but the administrators are living in the past and don't think the topic belongs in the open forums.
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