Pope Francis: "Hell Does Not Exist"

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  1. Baptist Believer Well-Known Member
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    Then, no.

    Eternal life (aka "living forever") is given only to those who have placed their life in Christ. Jesus makes that explicitly clear.

    For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should NOT PERISH, but have everlasting life. -- John 3:16 (although this is taught all over the New Testament)

    Your view would have everyone receiving everlasting life and no one perishing.
     
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    It amazes me when people do not see what is right before them.
    Pope Francis says he would baptise aliens: 'Who are we to close doors?'
    Pontiff made the out-of-this-world pledge during homily on acceptance

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    Pope Francis presides over a meeting involving schools, colleges and clergy from Rome in the Paul VI audience hall at the Vatican EPA
    Pope Francis has said that he would be willing to baptise aliens if they came to the Vatican, asking “who are we to close doors” to anyone - even Martians.

    In a homily yesterday dedicated to the concepts of acceptance and inclusion, Francis recalled a Bible story about the conversion of the first pagans to Christianity, according to reports on Vatican Radio.

    He said Catholicism was a church of “open doors”, and that it was up to Christians to accept the Holy Spirit however “unthinkable” and “unimaginable” it appeared.
    Describing how, according to the Bible, Peter was criticised by the Christians of Jerusalem for making contact with a community of “unclean” pagans, Francis said that at the time that too was “unthinkable”
    “If, for example, tomorrow an expedition of Martians came to us here and one said ‘I want to be baptised!’, what would happen?”

    Clarifying that he really was talking about aliens, the Pope said: “Martians, right? Green, with long noses and big ears, like in children’s drawings.”

    In pictures: 'The many popes of Pope Francis'


    Francis said that Christianity had struggled from its earliest stages with the temptation to reject “the living presence of God” in various forms.

    But he added: “When the Lord shows us the way, who are we to say, ‘No, Lord, it is not prudent! No, let's do it this way’. Who are we to close doors?”

    While Francis appears to have taken the argument to its logical extreme, this is not the first time that the Vatican has raised the prospect of baptizing extra-terrestrial beings.


    Speaking at the British Science Festival in 2010, one of then-Pope Benedict XVI’s astronomers said he would baptise an alien “if they asked”. While he accepted that the chances of ever getting such an opportunity were slim, Guy Consolmagno said: “Any entity – no matter how many tentacles it has – has a soul.”

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    Heresies of Francis:
    NO HELL-
    He would baptize Aliens= demons , END TIME DECEPTION Enoch warned of this.
    ON HOMOSEXUALITY AND Transgenderism:
    To be embraced by Catholics, homosexual is the way some are born.
    The Our Father needs to be changed!
    All religions should be embraced, all are children of God.

    Yet we as Christians are taught we are children of God through Christ.
    Hello! Things are bad and going to get worse. If these drum beats of heresy haven't
    gotten everyone's attention then they are for deception, and captivity! The ones scorned and rejected
    in the NWO will be Christians. While saying all are welcome they reject the WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE,
    Christ is the only way to the Father. Gird up faithful ones, Righteous sons and daughters for abysmal waters swell!

     
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    There is Big difference between one living forever, and one having Eternal Life though, as the scriptures indicate that God will have both saved/lost raised up and given immortal bodies, but that those saved enjoy Eternal life in Jesus, a quality of life, being with God forever, while the lost are to themselves forever.
    All live forever, but only the saved have Eternal Life.
    Second death is NOT ceasing to exist, but devoid of eternal life.
     
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    Eternal death, Eternal life, Eternal death=without God, Eternal life=with God eternally. Only the faithful have eternal life. Eternal damnation is a forever death which does not cease because the soul is eternal
    because it comes from an eternal God. Angels as well are eternal beings.
    The Three Angels and Babylon's Fall Rev.14:10-12
    …10he too will drink the wine of God’s anger, poured undiluted into the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented in fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11And the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever. Day and night there will be no rest for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” 12Here is a call for the endurance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.…
     
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    Baptist Believer has a point, how do you explain your stance or support it with scripture?
     
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    Jesus Himself stated that hell will be a place where people are forever in darkness, as even in the revelation, with new heavens and earth, a new Jerusalem, there shall be the lost outside of the gates of the great City!
    And again, where is real justice in in the final judgement a Hitler or a manson gets same treatment and turned to ashes as evry other sinner?